Let’s Talk About Ivins, shall we–
http://apnews.myway.com//article/200808 … NP4G0.html
Issues!! I have issues again! Being a retired Social Worker myself, I KNOW there is a code of ethics; and law– that ALLOWS for the safety of others by the reporting of otherwise confidential information and concerns. I do feel this woman is a bit culpable here– as well as a rant after this article!!
Social worker Jean Duley testified at a court hearing in Frederick on July 24 in a successful bid for a protective order from Ivins – who five days later committed suicide – that he “actually attempted to murder several other people.”
“As far back as the year 2000, the respondent has actually attempted to murder several other people, either through poisoning. He is a revenge killer. When he feels that he’s been slighted or has had – especially toward women – he plots and actually tries to carry out revenge killings,” Duley said.
She added that Ivins “has been forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic, homicidal killer. I have that in evidence. And through my working with him, I also believe that to be very true…”
“Client has a history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, plans and actions towards therapists,” Duley wrote in court documents last week, adding that his psychiatrist had described him as homicidal and sociopathic.
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FREDERICK, Md. (AP) – Bruce E. Ivins, the late microbiologist suspected in the 2001 anthrax attacks, had attempted to poison people and his therapist said she was “scared to death” of him, according to court testimony that emerged Saturday.
Social worker Jean Duley testified at a court hearing in Frederick on July 24 in a successful bid for a protective order from Ivins – who five days later committed suicide – that he “actually attempted to murder several other people.”
Ivins took a fatal dose of Tylonel as federal authorities monitored his movements and prepared to charge him with the murder of five people who died from anthrax poisonining in the weeks after the Sept. 2001 terror attacks.
An audio recording of the court session was obtained by The New York Times and posted it on its Web site.
As far back as the year 2000, the respondent has actually attempted to murder several other people, either through poisoning. He is a revenge killer. When he feels that he’s been slighted or has had – especially toward women – he plots and actually tries to carry out revenge killings,” Duley said.
She added that Ivins “has been forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic, homicidal killer. I have that in evidence. And through my working with him, I also believe that to be very true.”
Ivins, 62, who worked at an Army biodefense laboratory at Fort Detrick, took his own life Tuesday as federal authorities were closing in after investigating him for more than a year in connection with the deaths of five people poisoned by anthrax sent through the mail.
Answers to one of the nation’s highest profile unsolved mysteries are in documents that could be released as early as this week – and help explain how the government chased the wrong suspect for years.
Prosecutors were mulling this weekend whether to close the anthrax poisoning investigation, possibly as early as Monday or Tuesday. If that happens, court documents detailing newly developed scientific evidence that recently led the government to Ivins may be unsealed.
Had the same process been available years ago, it would have cleared Hatfill much earlier, according to two people familiar with the FBI investigation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is not officially closed.
The Army refused Saturday to say whether it had been reviewing the security clearance of the chief suspect in the anthrax attacks who had mental problems and killed himself as federal prosecutors were planning to indict him.
Ivins was removed from his lab in Maryland by police on July 10 and temporarily hospitalized, according to court records, because it was feared that he was a danger to himself and others. But it was unclear whether he was still employed by the lab at the time of his death Tuesday.
That raises the question of whether Ivins still had his security clearance and, if so, how he kept it, given that his social worker said Ivins had been viewed as homicidal and sociopathic by his psychiatrist.
Army spokesman Paul Boyce declined to comment on Ivins’ case.
Boyce didn’t respond to a question on what type of clearance microbiologists at the lab would have to hold.
David R. Franz, a former commander of the Army’s lab biological warfare labs at Fort Detrick, Md., where Ivins worked, said Saturday he thought it was “very important that the FBI present their case against Bruce and not just state that the investigation was over because it was him and he’s gone.”
Franz added, “I’m concerned about what closing this case without conclusive evidence might do to harm our life sciences enterprise. … I think we as Americans need to see the proof.”
Initially, FBI profilers said they probably were looking for a loner with a scientific background. Maybe he had a grudge against the lawmakers and news organizations. Investigators also considered possible links to al-Qaida, the terrorist group behind the 9/11 attacks.
Intensive focus initially settled on Hatfill, who for years accused the government of unfairly targeting him. In late June, the government exonerated Hatfill and paid him a $5.82 million settlement.
With that, the government seemed no closer to solving the “Amerithrax” mystery. But, quietly, investigators were closing in on a different scientist, Ivins.
A murder indictment and the possibility of the death penalty could have produced a high-profile climax to the case. Shadowed by the FBI, Ivins died Tuesday from a Tylenol overdose, leaving the probe in limbo and a nation seeking answers.
“It’s a shame the man is not here with us. We might have known more,” said Maureen Stevens, whose husband, Bob, was the first anthrax victim.
Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, said: “I think the FBI owes us a complete accounting of their investigation and ought to be able to tell us at some point, how we’re going to bring this to closure.” Daschle’s office received a letter containing the deadly white powder in 2001.
Among the unanswered questions is why the anthrax was sent. The FBI was investigating whether Ivins, renowned for his work developing anthrax vaccines and treatment, released the toxin to test those cures. Ivins was one of several scientists named in an application for a vaccine patent 18 months before the attacks.
Another puzzle is what finally led the FBI to focus on Ivins a year or so ago. Ivins attracted some attention for conducting unauthorized anthrax testing in the six months following the anthrax mailings, but the FBI focus stayed on Hatfill.
As Ivins’ name emerged, so did a portrait of a conflicted, troubled man. His friends knew him as the man who played the keyboard at church, a Red Cross volunteer who was an avid juggler and gardener.
Others saw a darker side. Police recently removed him from work, fearing he was a danger to himself or others. Social worker Duley filed for a restraining order in a Maryland court.
“Client has a history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, plans and actions towards therapists,” Duley wrote in court documents last week, adding that his psychiatrist had described him as homicidal and sociopathic.
Ivins’ brother, Tom Ivins, said he had not spoken to Bruce Ivins since 1985, but acknowledged the possibility his brother may have been the anthrax mailer.
“It makes sense, what the social worker said,” Tom Ivins said. “He considered himself like a god.”
Ivins’ lawyer, Paul F. Kemp, asserted the scientist’s innocence and said he would have proved it at trial. Kemp said his client’s death was the result of the government’s “relentless pressure of accusation and innuendo.”
Maryland’s chief medical examiner, Dr. David Fowler, confirmed Saturday that Ivins died Tuesday morning at Frederick, Md., Memorial Hospital; that the cause of death was found to be an overdose of acetaminophen, the active drug in Tylenol; and that it was ruled a suicide based on information from police and doctors.
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I however, am not buying Ivens is guilty. Not yet, not just yet.
The feds would like us to believe Ivins, who according to his therapist since 2000. He was homocidal and unstable. Now in 2001, these letters were sent, and yet this therapist kept her mouth shut? Putting aside the fact that lawfully she had a duty to report her fears to the police, to prevent a crime, she was most certainly obligated also to come forward after a crime was committed, that he may or may not have done.
This is a point I have been mulling over for a few days now…
They would also like me to believe, that this highly classified job was held by a homicidal maniac and a sociopath. but he did not become a homicidal maniac or a sociopath after he was hired, he has a history of this type of behavior since his college days. Don’t they do a psychiatric exam on someone when they are hired for a job of this nature? Wouldn’t they also do periodic checks on some one’s mental state, when they hold a job of this nature? Don’t they do a thorough back ground checks also? A reasoned guess would be, yes they do.
Also to believe this official story, I have to say oops! — the FBI spent 7 years accusing and following Ivins’ coworker, Hatfield. Completely ignoring the man with a history of being a homicidal maniac. Also how would he have gotten the anthrax out? What this lab does not have security? Especially doubled up if not tripled up since the deaths started??
I ain’t buying it. No yet. This guy was either “suicided“, so this case could be closed before the next admin comes into office or because of others in the mix. Do they want the investigation closed to cover for the real culprit[s]? Or did he really commit suicide because of the pressure from the feds? Look what they put Hatfield through, He received a multi million dollar settlement from the government for them wrongfully accusing him. They put him through hell, Ivans saw that.
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