Response to why should you fear Obama– geeeece!

QUOTES and Responses to the previous post>>

…because he’s calling for a Stasi-like “national security force” consisting of middle & high school children that is larger than the US military ?

***Roosevelt formed the Civilian Conservation Corps and Kennedy created the Peace Corps with strong support and participation, while Clinton’s AmeriCorps has never fully realized its potential, hampered by continuing funding struggles since its 1994 inception. Still, as Sen. Barack Obama called for greater public service Wednesday, some experts predict the potential now exists for programs seeking an expansion of volunteerism to succeed, despite a slumping economy and the nation being at war. “This may be a moment in time that is different from when earlier calls did not prove that effective,” said Stephen Goldsmith, a former Indianapolis mayor and chairman of the Corporation for National and Community Service. Goldsmith, a Republican and professor at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, said bipartisan support, serious societal problems and heightened interest in service among young people could offer new or expanded service programs the ability for growth not seen in decades
Loving your country shouldn’t just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July,” Obama said. “Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, our country will be stronger.” In his speech at a University of Colorado campus, he pledged that enhanced public service and active citizenship would be a central cause of his presidency. “We will ask Americans to serve,” the Illinois Democrat said. “We will create new opportunities for Americans to serve.” Obama’s draw to youth is multifaceted.
For supporters, Obama’s credibility on the topic is enhanced because he proved during the primary campaign that he could captivate and then mobilize young voters. His campaign argues they might also follow him into community service. Clinton had a similar, though not quite as powerful, pull among youth. But his AmeriCorps program, which recruits workers in exchange for an education stipend, has never caught on the way the Peace Corps did in the 1960s and ’70s. Presumptive GOP nominee John McCain of Arizona also supports an expansion of both programs and has stressed public service, including in the military, during campaign appearances.

Obama repeated his pledge to boost the size of the active military. But he said the nation’s future and safety depends on more than just additional service members.

Quotes re: multiple ideas–
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” he said Wednesday. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

He said he would make federal assistance conditional on school districts establishing service programs and set the goal of 50 hours of service a year for middle school and high school students.

For college students, Obama would set the goal at 100 hours of service a year and create a $4,000 annual tax credit for college students tied to that level of service.

…because he “believes” in the delusional “War on Terror” ?

Some facts>

Opposes surge–hasn’t produced political solution. (Sep 2008)

Unwise war in Iraq distracted us from catching Bin Laden. (Sep 2008)

The surge is a tactic to contain 4 years of mismanaged war. (Sep 2008)

Iraq has at most $59B surplus, not $79B surplus. (Sep 2008)

Promised 16-month exit; now 16-month reduction. (Sep 2008)

You don’t defeat a terrorist network by occupying Iraq. (Aug 2008)

I will only send our troops into harm’s way when necessary. (Aug 2008)

Situation has improved in Iraq; but it’s still fragile. (Jul 2008)

Surge reduced violence; but distracts us from long-term goal. (Jul 2008)

$10 billion a month spent in Iraq should be spent in the US. (Jul 2008)

President sets Iraq mission; Generals then implement tactics. (Apr 2008)

President sets Iraq mission; give generals a new mission. (Apr 2008)

$2.7 billion each week of Iraq spending is unsustainable. (Feb 2008)

Humanitarian aid now for displaced Iraqis. (Feb 2008)

Overstated displaced Iraqis; actually 4.2 million. (Feb 2008)

The Iraq war has undermined our security. (Jan 2008)

Iraq is distracting us from a host of global threats. (Jan 2008)

End the war, and end the mindset that got us into war. (Jan 2008)

The Iraq war was conceptually flawed from the start. (Jan 2008)

Title of Iraq war authorization bill stated its intent. (Jan 2008)

Get our troops out by the end of 2009. (Jan 2008)

No permanent bases in Iraq. (Jan 2008)

No, violence in Iraq is LOWER than 2 years ago. (Jan 2008)

Congress decides deployment level & duration, not president. (Dec 2007)

Surge strategy has made a difference in Iraq but failed. (Nov 2007)

Leave troops for protection of Americans & counter terrorism. (Sep 2007)

Hopes to remove all troops from Iraq by 2013, but no pledge. (Sep 2007)

Tell people the truth: quickest is 1-2 brigades per month. (Sep 2007)

No good options in Iraq–just bad options & worse options. (Aug 2007)

Be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. (Jul 2007)

We live in a more dangerous world because of Bush’s actions. (Jun 2007)

Case for war was weak, but people voted their best judgment. (Jun 2007)

War in Iraq is “dumb” but troops still need equipment. (Apr 2007)

Open-ended Iraq occupation must end: no military solution. (Apr 2007)

Saddam is a tyrant but not a national security threat. (Mar 2007)

Iraq 2002: ill-conceived venture; 2007: waste of resources. (Feb 2007)

Saddam did not own and was not providing WMD to terrorists. (Oct 2004)

Iraq War has made US less safe from terrorism. (Oct 2004)

Invading Iraq was a bad strategic blunder. (Oct 2004)

Democratizing Iraq will be more difficult than Afghanistan. (Oct 2004)

Never fudge numbers or shade the truth about war. (Jul 2004)

Set a new tone to internationalize the Iraqi reconstruction. (Jul 2004)

Iraq war was sincere but misguided, ideologically driven. (Jul 2004)

Not opposed to all wars, but opposed to the war in Iraq. (Jul 2004)

International voice in Iraq in exchange for debt forgiveness. (Jul 2004)

Fact Check: Pakistan has lost 1,200 troops fighting Al Qaeda. (Sep 2008)

Afghanistan needs more troops and resources. (Sep 2008)

McCain says he’d follow Laden to hell; but not to his cave? (Aug 2008)

Engaging in tough diplomacy with Iran is a sign of strength. (Jul 2008)

Iran is biggest strategic beneficiary of invasion of Iraq. (May 2008)

Military surge in Afghanistan to eliminate the Taliban. (May 2008)

Take no options off the table if Iran attacks Israel. (Apr 2008)

Two-state solution: Israel & Palestine side-by-side in peace. (Feb 2008)

Al Qaida is based in northwest Pakistan; strike if needed. (Jan 2008)

No action against Iran without Congressional authorization. (Dec 2007)

Iran: Bush does not let facts get in the way of ideology. (Dec 2007)

Meet directly for diplomacy with the leadership in Iran. (Nov 2007)

Committed to Iran not having nuclear weapons. (Oct 2007)

Iran military resolution sends the region a wrong signal. (Oct 2007)

Deal with al Qaeda on Pakistan border, but not with nukes. (Aug 2007)

Military action in Pakistan if we have actionable intel. (Aug 2007)

Fact Check: Yes, Obama said invade Pakistan to get al Qaeda. (Aug 2007)

Focus on battle in Afghanistan and root out al Qaeda. (Jun 2007)

Bush cracked down on some terrorists’ financial networks. (Jun 2007)

Iraq has distracted us from Taliban in Afghanistan. (Apr 2007)

Iran with nuclear weapons is a profound security threat. (Apr 2007)

We did the right thing in Afghanistan. (Mar 2007)

We are playing to Osama’s plan for winning a war from a cave. (Oct 2006)

Al Qaida is stronger than before thanks to the Bush doctrine. (Jan 2006)

Terrorists are in Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Iran. (Oct 2004)

Problems with current Israeli policy. (Jul 2004)

Engage North Korea in 6-party talks. (Jul 2004)

Use moral authority to work towards Middle East peace. (Jul 2004)

Voting Record [in part of course...lol]

Late to vote against war is not late to oppose war. (Jun 2007)

Voted to fund war until 2006; now wants no blank check. (Nov 2007)

Spending on the Cold War relics should be for the veterans. (Jun 2007)

Would have voted no to authorize the President to go to war. (Jul 2004)

Voted YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008. (Mar 2007)

Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)

Voted YES on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Nov 2005)

 …because Joe Biden is a “War on Terror” fear monger who during the Dem debates spouted off the same fear mongering rhetoric as the GOP’s Neocons were using ?

Cont>> [this is very informative]http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#War_+_Peace

The ‘terrorist’ that they speak of are the same growing group that the majority of countries have ignored &/or been battling for over 20 years. GB has done a splendid job of screwing up the minds of Americans into thinking Iraq is about terrorists. Being ‘inside’ DC he, as well as others… know things we most likely will never know. BUT– I trust my special friend in the odd shaped building, and he states without flinching that we will be in Iran in less than 15 years. And that terrorists are a unique and wide reached bunch of dangerous renegades… splintered around the world. It isn’t a war against terror, its a battle daily and a defense. So call Joe and others what you will– the one particular fear regarding terrorists is real. Now, Afghanistan, Iraq etc are totally different topics.

…because supports the notion of a military draft (sounds similar to annual legislative proposals from another Democrat -who endorsed him- for a ‘universal’ military draft that includes all women ages 18-40) ? “If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some”.

He actually stated that females need to register if males do. BUT he is against them being in battle zones. And, really that is legal and equal to the majority of the scale. We are the ones who made the laws… now we shall whine about them when challenged.

…because Obama voted for the new FISA Act, which granted immunity to telecommunication corporations for illegal wiretapping , and runaway governmental wiretapping ?

Now let’s research this a bit guys! I mean really– talk about some folks getting mad when emailers don’t check out snopes before sending something. Be informed guys… read the bill…

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00168

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c110:3:./temp/~c110z1rgeF:e694:

because he didn’t support Dennis Kucinich’s drive to impeach Bush & Cheney, stating that “impeachment is not acceptable” ?

He did not remark about Dennis– he answered a question about impeachment. I do agree with critics on this one though– I think he ‘bottom-line’ felt that impeachment proceedings would be costly as far as the campaigns and election goes. My opinion here. lol

…because he has pledged to let Bush’s crimes remain buried for all time ?

And that quote was from where????

…because he disregards the fact that the primary motivation for 9/11 terror attacks on the US is US foreign policy itself (meaning that continuing the perpetual war policy literally means never ending perpetual war) ?

AGAIN, let’s read a bit shall we.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/anti-obama-author-on-911-conspiracy/…

because he wants to expand taxes in general, but in particular implement a “global tax” ?

That actually is one of my favorite mis-quoted, abused smear topic among all of these. lol

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/the_global_candidate_proposes.html

Not to bad an idea, accept now we have a huge bail-out loan repayment for shit we didn’t do…lol . This was a bill he and many supported prior to the economic landslide!

…because Zbignew Brzezinski his chief foreign policy adviser, is a flagrant neoliberal global imperialist who essentially created “Osama Bin Laden” and the “War on Terror” ?

 

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/zbigniew_brzezinski/index.html?s=oldest

not exactly his chief advisor.. the man has been around forever… sometimes the internet , and what people cut and paste around, is like that old game ‘telephone’ with the cans and string . Start with “May I have a pop cycle?”… and ten kids later you get “Mike has a purple bicycle”

…because he supports Bush Co.’s Russian border missile “defense shield”, which is their ’solution’ of creating a “New Cold War” to ensure perpetual wars even with an eroding notion of a never-ending “War on Terror” ?

OMG! Another can n’ string thing!

Staff Writer

Warsaw (AFP) Sept 11, 2008
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the United States on Thursday of seeking to encircle Russia, and reiterated Moscow’s opposition to US plans to install a missile shield on Polish soil.

Lavrov accused Washington of preparing “not only a third, but also a fourth and fifth region in which to station (missile shield elements) and not just close to Russia’s European borders.” “We’re asking these questions of our American partners,” he said. Lavrov spoke during a visit to Poland, the first by a senior Russian leader to an EU member state since Russia’s war with Georgia in August and Poland’s agreement that same month to host part of the complex US missle shield system. In an article published in Polish news media Thursday, Lavrov repeated the Kremlin’s view that the missile shield targets Russia, rather than any potential threat from “rogue states” such as Iran. “A simple military analysis proves that a US base in Europe for global anti-missile defense has no other, and for many years will have no other, target but Russian missiles,” Lavrov wrote in the Gazeta Wyborcza newspaper. “All objective experts understand that Iran’s missiles pose no threat to Europe and even less to the United States.” Clearly trying to reassure Lavrov, Poland’s foreign minister said US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would only proceed with basing the missile shield in Poland if he is sure it isn’t meant for Russia. “In talks with me, senator Obama made the realization of our (missile shield) agreement conditional on whether he will be certain that the system is not aimed against Russia,” Radoslaw Sikorski told reporters alongside Lavrov. “In a mini-military briefing given before yesterday to senator McCain in which I participated, I can say that what the candidate was told about the purpose of the (missile shield) system has nothing to do with Russia,” Sikorski said, referring to Obama’s Republican rival John McCain. “So we hope that Russian fears over this agreement will dissipate with time,” Sikorski said. Lavrov said that while Russia saw not threat from Poland, it felt “there are risks to the security of the Russian Federation that are occurring as a result of American infrastructure coming closer to our borders”. Poland and the United States signed a deal on August 14 taking forward the missile shield programme. Washington will position 10 interceptor missiles in Poland — plus a radar facility in neighboring Czech Republic — by 2011-2013 to complete a system already in place in the Britain, Greenland and the United States. The United States says the shield — endorsed by NATO leaders in February — is tailored to fend off potential missile strikes by “rogue states” such as Iran, and it insists it is not directed at Russia. The Kremlin, however, regards it as a grave security threat, and on Wednesday it threatened to turn its own missiles towards missile shield facilities in Europe. Turning to Georgia, Lavrov said South Ossetia has no intention of joining the Russian Federation, as claimed by the breakaway region’s leader who soon retracted his remarks. “I don’t know where you have heard this information. South Ossetia doesn’t want to enter anywhere,” Lavrov said, after South Ossetian separatist leader Eduard Kokoity was quoted by a Russian news agency as saying his Georgian breakaway region wanted to be part of Russia. Kokoity later backtracked on his remarks.

…because Obama is just another frontman for the privately-owned tyrannical Federal Reserve, which has devalued the dollar to being worth less than 4 cents since its inception in 1913 ?

Statement from Obama on Emerging Federal Reserve-Treasury Plan

September 19, 2008 Chicago, IL –

Below is a Statement from Senator Barack Obama on the Emerging Federal Reserve – Treasury Plan:

“The events of the last few days have made it clear that we must take further bold and decisive action to shore up confidence in our financial markets and avoid a deepening economic crisis that could jeopardize the life savings and well-being of millions of Americans. I support the effort of Secretary Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke to work in a bipartisan spirit with the Congressional leadership to find a systemic solution to our deepening crisis, and I will closely examine the specifics of their effort and the opportunities for swift action. As I review the emerging details of Fed-Treasury proposal with my top economic advisors this morning I will be guided by four basic principles:

“First, we cannot lose sight that we are in the midst of a broad economic crisis that also requires immediate action to create jobs and help support distressed homeowners and communities. For too long, this Administration has been willing to hit the fast forward button in helping distressed Wall Street firms while pressing pause when it comes to saving jobs or keeping families in their homes. Swift and unprecedented action to shore up Wall Street must come alongside equally swift and serious efforts to help struggling families on Main Street, create new jobs, and grow our middle-class once more.

“Second, any taxpayer-funded support must have as its focus protecting our nation’s long-term interest in a stable financial market and a growing economy rather than rewarding particular companies or the imprudent decisions of borrowers or lenders. These extraordinary steps must be designed with only the public good in mind, not to enhance the personal gain of CEOs and management at taxpayers’ expense.

“Third, this plan must be temporary and coupled with tough new oversight and regulations of our financial institutions. There must be a clear process to wind down this plan and restore private sector assets into private sector hands after restoring stability to the system. Taxpayers must share in any upside benefit that such stability brings.

“Finally, this plan should be part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20. We are facing a global financial crisis and the United States can take a leadership role in coordinating a global response to the present crisis, as well as greater regulatory cooperation and alignment to prevent future crises.

“As we move beyond immediate actions to stabilize financial markets, it is important that we build upon the ideas I have laid out over the last several years about how to modernize our financial regulation. Eliminating consumer protections and lax oversight contributed to the crisis we are in today, and establishing commonsense rules of the road for our financial system can help restore confidence in our financial system.

“Given the gravity of this situation, and based on conversations I have had with both Secretary Paulson and Chairman Bernanke, I have asked my economic team to refrain from presenting a more detailed blue-print of how an immediate plan might be structured until the Treasury and the Federal Reserve have had an opportunity to present their proposal. It is critical at this point that the markets and the public have confidence that their work will be unimpeded by partisan wrangling, and that leaders in both parties work in concert to solve the problem at hand,” said Senator Barack Obama.

 …because Joe Biden supports what amounts to runaway copyright laws expanding “Big 5″ media content protection? Because Biden bends over for expanded FBI powers, and supports stymying private citizens rights to using software encryption? Because Biden has about the most dismal Cyber Rights voting record possible ?

Again– let’s read a bit

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10039238-38.html

The above link actually was very interesting.

Ya, know…Palin may have not know GW’s war statement policy etc… but really DO ANY OF US KNOW EXACTLY WHAT A TOTAL BILL HAS IN IT???

because Obama was soft on HR1951 / S1959, which was the open embracement of the modern day COINTELPRO which was used to violently repress civil rights groups (Black Panthers, etc) in the 60’s and 70’s ?

Talk about a cyber bite! lol He wasn’t even in DC yet.

Here ya go… READ folks.

re: HR1951 You need to know what the hell that bill is about. Geeeece– whether you like the guy or not, the truth will stand when the worlds on fire. At least be enlightened, and have knowledge.

http://www.cubasolidarity.net/rights.html

because he’s just another front for NAFTA, even though he tries to deny it

Trade

Obama and Biden believe that trade with foreign nations should strengthen the American economy and create more American jobs. He will stand firm against agreements that undermine our economic security. They also believe that Nafta was oversold to the citizen of America.

Fight for Fair Trade: Obama and Biden will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. They will use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central American Free Trade Agreement that fail to live up to those important benchmarks. Obama and Biden will also pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce trade agreements and stop countries from continuing unfair government subsidies to foreign exporters and no tariff barriers on U.S. exports.

Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama and Biden believe that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. They will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers.

Improve Transition Assistance: To help all workers adapt to a rapidly changing economy, Obama and Biden will update the existing system of Trade Adjustment Assistance by extending it to service industries, creating flexible education accounts to help workers retrain, and providing retraining assistance for workers in sectors of the economy vulnerable to dislocation before they lose their jobs.

End Tax Breaks for Companies that Send Jobs Overseas: Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe that companies should not get billions of dollars in tax deductions for moving their operations overseas. Obama and Biden will also fight to ensure that public contracts are awarded to companies that are committed to American workers.

Reward Companies that Support American Workers: Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 with Senators Richard Durbin (D-IL) and Sherrod Brown (D-OH) to reward companies that create good jobs with good benefits for American workers. The legislation would provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America if it has ever been in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military.

…because despite criticizing the “Politics of Fear”, he still supports both the War on Terror & Global Warming. After years of propaganda from each side on these matters he doesn’t even have to directly engage in pure fear mongering. He merely needs to mention the issues and support them. The effects of others fear mongering is already there to invoke. FACT: there isn’t an actual consensus on man made “Global Warming”.

Obama, as well as Biden believe Global Warming to be a product of many factors– especially factors man induced and allowed to grow unchecked.

From Mark Henderson, Science Correspondent, in Washington

The strongest evidence yet that global warming has been triggered by human activity has emerged from a major study of rising temperatures in the world’s oceans.

The present trend of warmer sea temperatures, which have risen by an average of half a degree Celsius (0.9F) over the past 40 years, can be explained only if greenhouse gas emissions are responsible, new research has revealed.

The results are so compelling that they should end controversy about the causes of climate change, one of the scientists who led the study said yesterday.

“The debate about whether there is a global warming signal now is over, at least for rational people,” said Tim Barnett, of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, California. “The models got it right. If a politician stands up and says the uncertainty is too great to believe these models, that is no longer tenable.”

In the study, Dr Barnett’s team examined more than seven million observations of temperature, salinity and other variables in the world’s oceans, collected by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and compared the patterns with those that are predicted by computer models of various potential causes of climate change.

It found that natural variation in the Earth’s climate, or changes in solar activity or volcanic eruptions, which have been suggested as alternative explanations for rising temperatures, could not explain the data collected in the real world. Models based on man-made emissions of greenhouse gases, however, matched the observations almost precisely.

“What absolutely nailed it was the greenhouse model,” Dr Barnett told the American Association for the Advancement of Science conference in Washington. Two models, one designed in Britain and one here in the US, got it almost exactly. We were stunned. They did it so well it was almost unbelievable.”

Climate change has affected the seas in different ways in different parts of the world: in the Atlantic, for example, rising temperatures can be observed up to 700 metres below the surface, while in the Pacific the warming is seen only up to 100m down.

Only the greenhouse models replicated the changes that have been observed in practice. “The fact that this has gone on in different ways gives us the chance to figure out who did it,” Dr Barnett said.

“All the potential culprits have been ruled out except one.

“This is perhaps the most compelling evidence yet that global warming is happening right now, and it shows that we can successfully simulate its past and its likely future evolution. The statistical significance of these results is far too strong to be merely dismissed and should wipe out much of the uncertainty about the reality of global warming.”

Dr Barnett said the results, which are about to be submitted for publication in a major peer-reviewed journal, should put further pressure on the Bush Administration to sign up to the Kyoto Protocol, which came into force on Wednesday. “It is now time for nations that are not part of Kyoto to reevaluate and see if it would be to their advantage to join,” he said.

“We have got a serious problem ahead of us. The debate is not have we got a clear global warming signal, the debate is what we are going to do about it.”

In a separate study, also presented to the conference, a team led by Ruth Curry of Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Connecticut has established that 20,000 square kilometres of freshwater ice melted in the Arctic between 1965 and 1995.

Further melting on this scale could be sufficient to turn off the ocean currents that drive the Gulf Stream, which keeps Britain up to 6C warmer than it would otherwise be. “It is taking the first steps, the system is moving in that direction,” Dr Curry said.

“The new ocean study, taken together with the numerous validations of the same models in the atmosphere, portends far broader changes. Other parts of the world will face similar problems to those expected, and being observed now, in the western US.

“The skill demonstrated by the climate models in handling the changing planetary heat budget suggests that these scenarios have a high enough probability of actually happening that they need to be taken seriously by decision-makers.”

because he’s for an expanded global government UN? (This goes without saying)

Now that is just knee-jerk and shows no research. Obama when researched about global government only pops up regarding his global tax on poverty bill. There are many sites re: new world orders etc. And I have been to that rodeo before. Let’s stick to the facts.

…because Obama is a first term Senator, meaning we don’t even have a clear record of who we’re dealing with ?

and Palin?? [among many in history…] Geese. We allowed G.B. to get in and not bitch loud enough to take him out of office… and he was not even in the senate. Give me a break. Hell, and McInsane suffers from PTSD badly, but hey let’s ignore that. Like if we found anyone or anything we didn’t like dealing with, we would all just stand up and make sure they were thrown out or stopped??? Right. We should of been in the streets 8 years ago!! Americans at this point in the game are pathetic. Mouthy, ignorantly opinionated and pathetic.

…because he dodges the new 9/11 investigation issue, and for sure doesn’t speak about it whatsoever? Regardless of your view, it doesn’t take much research to conclude that the 9/11 Commission “investigation” was a total farce, and that the stakes are so high in this regard that to not insist on a full investigation goes beyond mere national suicide.

Three months after the reader sent Obama a correspondence outlining her great concern that criminal elements of the government were directly complicit in the attacks, the Senator sent the following response via email, which was then forwarded to us:

 

 

 

Dear Penny:

Thank you for contacting me regarding your belief that the U.S. government was complicit in the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. I appreciate hearing your passionate views on this matter.

While I do not believe the U.S. government was complicit in the attacks, I do think it should be held accountable for the unacceptable mistakes it made in the run-up to that terrible day. The blunders that occurred prior to the 2001 attacks were inexcusable and often outrageous. The series of clear warnings about the potential use of hijacked planes as weapons is just one example of why the “surprise” of 9/11 should have been anticipated. In my view, proof of government complicity is not necessary when making the argument that the U.S. should accept some responsibility for what happened on 9/11.

Thank you again for writing.

Sincerely,

Barack Obama

And..

September 16, 2008

Obama Democrat Presidential Candidate Senator Barack Obama has responded to a question posed by an Info wars reader regarding government complicity in the September 11th 2001 terrorist attacks.

Obama dismisses McCain 9/11 commission

proposal .

We’re still awaiting more details

about the 9/11 Commission-style

investigation John McCain would like to

launch into the financial turmoil roiling Wall

Street, but Barack Obama is already panning the idea on the stump.

As prepared for delivery today in Colorado:

Just today, Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book – you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem. But here’s the thing – this isn’t 9/11. We know how we got into this mess. And those accountable will be dealt with. Distractions that are out of order from issues that move to top priority spread us thin and do not do justice to the issues unless fully addressed and completely focused upon. We need to fix many things– What we need now is leadership that gets us out. I’ll provide it, John McCain won’t, and that’s the choice for the American people in this election.

because VP Joe Biden promised a Supreme Court ruling on mandatory “Verichip” implants for the US population ?

OMG! Could that of been twisted a bit more!! HERE is the quote from 2005. I get what Joe said and meant… no biggy!

December 15, 2005

AP: Tommy Thompson still plans to get chipped

Tommy Thompson still plans to “get chipped” with a VeriChip/VeriMed implant able RFID device, according to a new

When we contacted VeriChip Corporation spokesman John Procter about the delay, he said Thompson was “too busy.” He added that Thompson “wants to see it [the VeriChip] in a real-world environment first,” and that he was trying to arrange a tour for Thompson at Hackensack University Medical Center, the first hospital to implement the technology in its emergency room.

We were hoping that Mr. Thompson was having a change of heart about the procedure, but he told AP that he will be eager to get chipped when the time is right. “In fact,” he said, “I’ll be in the front of the line.”

The line?

Apparently, Mr. Thompson envisions a mass chipping at some point–something VeriChip has been planning.

When I asked Mr. Procter why the human version of the VeriChip implant contains a 16-digit number instead of a nine-digit number like the nearly identical pet chipping version, he told me the longer number would provide “flexibility.” He said the extended numbering scheme would ensure more unique numbers would be available for the large number of people they were planning to implant at some point in the future.

I’m hoping VeriChip’s “planning” is just wishful thinking. But considering the words of Senator Joseph Biden to Judge John Roberts during his Supreme Court Confirmation hearings on September 12, 2005, mass chipping plans could really be in the works. He said:

 ..Can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person’s body to track his every movement? There’s actual discussion about that. You will rule on that — mark my words — before your tenure is over.”

 AP story. The former Secretary of Health and Human Services and four-time governor of Wisconsin made a commitment to undergoing the procedure back in July of 2005, but has never followed through.…

because his wife and he are both Council on Foreign Relations members

Ok– just like 32nd and 33 rd degree masons… they KNOW what is going on… but their members in the blue lodges … 3rd degree guys don’t. They believe that their funds and efforts go to community good. Hence.. CFL has it’s ‘degrees’ too. Being a member doesn’t mean you know shit about the upper council agendas.Ok– I am done with this. Geeeeeece. This exact ‘post’ is out there under many many peoples names. So– all I can say is… research, stay open… and use your head. I actually think when people just knee jerk or have an emotional response, they just may be a bit bigoted. Hummmm?Just think “snopes’ or something whenever you read an opinionated article… get the facts mame’ just the facts. lol

… and I am not even voting for Obama. But I do like to know true facts, not emotional grapevining.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They Are Both Full Of Shit…

They have morphed.

McCain is a fool and Obama is a pussy. In both cases, there isn’t any difference in them where it counts.

And the Sheeple said, “Amen.”

Why Should You Fear Obama As President

I have listed many reasons why I feel Obama should not be our next president. To put it bluntly, I believe he is the new face “front man” that the Elite want to use to fool the gullible American public into “Hope”ing for “Change”. It happens pretty often in these races (he first one really remember being Jimmy Carter… although I do believe he was true to his heart, even though he was used). With Barack Obama, however, I am not so convinced that he is following the Principles that he eluded to during the Primary, even though I understand that the Primaries were simply an ‘illusion’ and he never really was a Progressive voice.

It is a shame when people you once felt were true to their voice (Michael Moore comes to mind, due to his agreement with Obama, even though Obama is at odds with Moore’s main issues). Obviously, Mr Moore has fallen for the shtick and now won’t back down from his endorsement (his thinking, like many other gullible Americans, is that McCain would be worse).

That is debatable, depending on what the issues are.

What I continue to preach is that neither are going to address the most important issues we face today without being (both of them) reliant and dependent upon the Elite’s directions. In my mind I have a list of reasons I can’t vote for him, but it never really came to me precisely what the MAIN reason was until I read the following found at World Prout Assembly:

Ignorance Is Futile!

Posted September 15, 2008
By Ignorance Isn’t Bliss:

Amidst all the potential nasties, I fear one thing most. And this one reason alone is why I’ve deeply felt for some time that he will surely be the one “elected”. And I’ll premptively point out that the list of reasons that precedes this one thing almost wholeheartedly applies to McCain as well (worse in many cases).This won’t be a reason any Liberal or Conservative would ever expect, nor is the preceding list hardly particular in any ‘wedge issue’ topic. Vote None of the Above!

So is it…

…because he’s calling for a Stasi-like “national security force” consisting of middle & high school children that is larger than the US military ?

…because he “believes” in the delusional “War on Terror” ? Link 1 Link 2 Link 3

…because Joe Biden is a “War on Terror” fearmonger who during the Dem debates spouted off the same fearmongering rhetoric as the GOP’s Neocons were using ?

…because supports the notion of a military draft (sounds similar to annual legislative proposals from another Democrat -who endorsed him- for a ‘universal’ military draft that includes all women ages 18-40) ? “If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some”.

…because Obama voted for the new FISA Act, which granted immunity to telecommunication corporations for illegal wiretapping , and runaway governmental wiretapping ?

…because he didn’t support Dennis Kucinich’s drive to impeach Bush & Cheney, stating that “impeachment is not acceptable” ?

…because he has pledged to let Bush’s crimes remain buried for all time ?

…because he disregards the fact that the primary motivation for 9/11 terror attacks on the US is US foreign policy itself (meaning that continuing the perpetual war policy literally means never ending perpetual war) ?

…because he wants to expand taxes in general, but in particular implement a “global tax” ?

…because Zbignew Brzezinski, his chief foreign policy adviser, is a flagrant neoliberal global imperialist who essentially created “Osama Bin Laden” and the “War on Terror” ?

…because he supports BushCo.’s Russian border missile “defense shield”, which is their ’solution’ of creating a “New Cold War” to ensure perpetual wars even with an eroding notion of a never-ending “War on Terror” ? Link

…because Obama is just another frontman for the privately-owned tyrannical Federal Reserve, which has devalued the dollar to being worth less than 4 cents since its inception in 1913 ?

…because Joe Biden supports what amounts to runaway copyright laws expanding “Big 5″ media content protection? Because Biden bends over for expanded FBI powers, and supports stymying private citzens rights to using software encryption? Because Biden has about the most dismal Cyber Rights voting record possible ? Link

…because Obama was soft on HR1951 / S1959, which was the open embracement of the modern day COINTELPRO which was used to violently repress civil rights groups (Black Panthers, etc) in the 60’s and 70’s ?

…because Joe Biden supports stripping US citizens rights & ability to defend itself (from tyrannical government) with firearms?

…because VP Joe Biden promised a Supreme Court ruling on mandatory “Verichip” implants for the US population ?

…because he’s just another front for NAFTA, even though he tries to deny it ?

…because despite criticising the “Politics of Fear”, he still supports both the War on Terror & Global Warming. After years of propaganda from each side on these matters he doesn’t even have to directly engage in pure fearmongering. He merely needs to mention the issues and support them. The effects of others fearmongering is already there to invoke. FACT: there isn’t an actual consensus on man made “Global Warming”.

…because he’s for an expanded global government UN? (This goes without saying)

…because Obama is a first term Senator, meaning we don’t even have a clear record of who we’re dealing with ?

…because he doesn’t speak about nor does his campaign respond to the Depleted Uranium US munitions issue ? It turns out that most US military tank rounds -amongst many other munition types- are made from DU, which has a 4 billion year half-life and causes birth defects in now multiple countries where it has been used by US forces since the first Gulf War.

…because, despite all the ‘Strengthening the Middle Class” & “regulations” rhetoric, Obama fronts for Wall Street’s corrupt infrastructure ? The old axiom ‘Put your money where your mouth is’ sure comes to mind, but it goes further than just that. Link 1 Link2 Link 3 Link 4 Link 5

…because he dodges the new 9/11 investigation issue, and for sure doesn’t speak about it whatsoever? Regardless of your view, it doesn’t take much research to conclude that the 9/11 Commission “investigation” was a total farce, and that the stakes are so high in this regard that to not insist on a full investigation goes beyond mere national suicide.

…because his wife and he are both Council on Foreign Relations members ? The CFR is the ideological powerhouse organization in which te past 90 years worth of never ending “American Imperialism” perpetual war may be mostly to attributed to. The list of some members of this group should speak for itself: George H. W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Allen Welsh Dulles, Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Walter Lippmann, John McCain, David Rockefeller, Fred Thompson, Herbert Hoover, Michael R. Bloomberg, Sandy Berger, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Robert M. Gates, Gary Hart, John Kerry, Irving Kristol, John D. Negroponte, Condoleezza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz, James Woolsey, Gerald Ford, Rupert Murdoch, Porter J. Goss & Newt Gingrich. BUT, not only does the CFR steer American Imperialism, its the powerhouse driving one world government. One example is the whole “North American Union” controversy. The NAU is driven almost completely by the CFR, whose mission resembles the dictatorial European Union. Much more can be said of this but these entries are meant to be short. NAU Link 1 NAU Link 2 NAFTA Link 1 SPP Link 1

…because he preached fearmongering to a foreign crowd in Germany about rampant border-less ‘threats’, where he in effect called for a “New World Order” without using those particular words ?

…because Obama and Dick Cheney of all people on earth are cousins (in a similar vein to how Bush & John Kerry are cousins) ? So a few of these might seem flimsy, but that doesn’t discount my other points while when you add them in its just gets uglier and uglier.

…because his economic adviser (since Barack’s Illinois Senate campaign), Austan “the ghoul” Goolsbee, is Skull & Bones the same as the Bush’s and even John Kerry, despite there not being more than 900 living members of this nefarious organization at any giving time ? At one point, during its rule, the Bush administration contained 11 S&B members, not to mention his dad and brother Jeb.

…because he’s another in a long line of Israel Lobby politicians ? This is another touchy subject, but the fact remains that the Palestinians weren’t the ones who expelled the Jews from Israel, and in the modern sense there are ‘private citizen’ Zionist terrorists who commit the same atrocities as the Muslim extremists. And even though the Israeli government performs ‘Big Brother’ operationsagainst the Zionist terrorists -who literally call for genocide against their enemy- the vast majority of policies and actions by said Israeli government still complement their work just the same. The legacy of the Israeli government has been compared to the ‘apartheid’ South African regimes of decades past, but name calling happened in those decades. So for Obama to support the Israeli government has rammifications paralleling supporting the confederate leadership during the US “Civil” War. Now for the touchy side, Israel means lots of things for lots of different people.There are lots of different justificiations or rather rationalizations for continuing blind support for Israeli policies , that I don’t have time to get into here. But suffice to say, many assume it has to do with Biblical scripture, but the part that doesn’t make sense is we still find the same support by the so-called ‘heathen’ Liberal elitists. The answer to this paradox is the key to understanding the whole point of Israel: Israel is simply a US imperial beach-headfortress in the Middle East, to ensure American Imperialism over the Middle East. Which means their tyrannical policies get the blind eye, not that the Israeli Lobby runs the United States.

…because BushCo. has already spent 8 years on turning the White House and the Imperial Presidency into a centralized dictatorial powerhouse, but Obama has failed to make sweeping & itemized promises to undo it all while he’ll be quite busy doing all of his other “change” to assume he’ll actually focus on cleaning up the dictatorial presidential executive orders, congressional legislation and over 1100 executive signing statements ?

NO! None of those are the reason.

I’m quite ‘used to’ those sorts of travesties & tyrannies already.

The reason is actually more simple and subtle: Crowd Control.

The Answer: Nobody can possibly subdue the masses like Obama can. That’s why he’s the Ruling Establishment’s man. After 8 years of BushCo. over half the population aren’t just pissed, they’re in complete dustrust of the government in general. The control scheme to keep us ignorant and asleep is falling apart at the seams. And even more important than just having a pissed off political party the nations youth are waking up at an ‘alarming’ rate. The youth are the ones who protest. And Black’s have a history of rioting.

Only Obama can can get the bulk Democrat’s, The Youth and Minorities under his wing, while at the same time not having too much of the GOP base pissed to all whits end. Consider if Hillary would have “won”: virtually the entire GOP base would have been up in arms. While there will still be an us vs. them sense of defeat and so forth, the same amount of hate wouldn’t exist, especially not right away. And since Obama is apparently in a position to start taking on Neocon foreign policy positions he seems poised keep even some of the staunchest Neocon types content.Besides Hillary wouldn’t have ever had the Obama effect on The Youth.

Meanwhile, it’s The Youth in particular that must be put under wraps. Further, considering African American voter disfranchisement in the past 2 presidential elections, I’d say that they’re already a whits end. What better way to garner their unbridled support than to allow them to ‘vote’ for a ‘Black’ man? For the majority of the population to be willingly controlled, we must trust, we must “Believe In” the system in general and the election process in particular.

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Let’s say you happen to be amongst the puppeteers who run the big show from behind the scenes. Like if you were one of the many deeply embedded in the Military Industrial Complex, the central banking scheme, the Big 5 Media, etc. You know, the people that steer (electioneer) and even rig the elections. The “Disaster Capitalists” whose portfolios are set to make profits off of any and nearly all disasters. The people who seek world government aka global domination, and who use the United States as the machine to make that a reality.

Well if you’re one of these people then you face a serious problem: you can’t control a system when most of its population doesn’t trust you. Likewise, you can’t control an alert population. Most importantly: you can’t maintain a system of quiet domination when the youth of it are angry, and are making noise in the streets. Enter Obama.

To maintain a hegemonic system of never ending perpetual war -bent on global domination- you need a subdued and dumbed down citizenry. In particular, you need the youth not only ignorant to the hard truth, but you also need them to believe in your government. Therefore, the more cult-like you can get them the better.

For a spell Bush enjoyed such a scenario. But where it lacked, especially after the invasion of Iraq, was only about half the population idolized he and ‘his’ government. It wasn’t too long before one half of the population cursed his name to the ranks of Hitler, and nowadays maybe half of his own ‘cult’ doesn’t dodge him like the plague. Many who once gobbled up his every breathe as truth handed down from God Almighty now have awoken to the morbid truth of a nightmare that runs much deeper than Bush and his cronies. That nightmare is best known as the “American Dream”.

Back to the ‘criminal profiler’ view, as central social engineering planners, by necessity of career and worldview, you see the ‘08 election coming. You’ve had several years to study ‘your’ ‘market’ and ‘your’ ‘audience’. So as you and your think-tanks contemplate the best way to ensure your future goals, it would already be obvious that you need your masses truly on board. Total subservience; Total acquiescence; Or at least as close as possible.

But now, during the final stages of your plot for world control, of true militaristic technological totalitarianism, you face the youth in new ways. Many things, but 2 things in particular, besides ‘the war’ itself, compel them. First, the nation is barreling towards being $10 trillion in national debt, which means its the youth in particular in trouble. Second, there’s this pesky new thing known as the Internet helping the masses wake up to the reality that your controlled media ‘pentopoly’ would normally divert them from.

In this 21st Century reality you need a 21st Century ‘leader’ to whip the 21st Century masses into an all-time cultish fervor. The obvious choice would be Barack Hussein Obama. You really couldn’t ask for more from your position. It’s the best of both worlds, and after-all, thanks to careful engineering over many decades, there are only 2 realities for the masses to pick from (Left or Right).

After nearly 8 years of rabid hatred from most of the one half, and the youth of the typically marginalized masses beginning to wake up, you must get these segments of your control scheme under wraps. Especially considering each have the War doctrine among the top items of their lists. When you’re executing Vietnam’esque policy you can’t have a repeat of the response to such. You’ve already learned that lesson.

The solution to maintaining your policy goals is not to actually strip away the policies, but rather send in the perfect man to convince the masses that the policies will “change” and therefore they can go back to bed. You need the perfect oratory hitman, from your own ranks, of course. And the masses need him, because after most of a lifetime of deep-concerns revolving around ballgames, TV commercials and power-shopping they are a strained citizenry in light of the painful truth of modern years.

So with Obama its a slam dunk. By gearing the foreign policy just right, you’ll be able to keep much of the Right at least content. You will only be able to please the some of the staunchest pro-war-mongers so far, but that’s ok because many of them are already over with “BushCo.” obsession. Meanwhile, again, most Youth & Democrats & Minorities will be put back to sleep.

Frank Newport at Gallup Is Owned By The Two Party System

It has come to my attention that the Gallup Polling organization is screening potential candidates and not even listing the third party folks on the poll. They use “internal judgment” and no real criteria. If Mr Newport “feels” like someone should be on the polling list, he will add them. If not, oh well.

Perhaps we need to all send this man a letter or call. I kept getting busy signals, so I wrote. The man’s name is Frank Newport. His number is 609-924-9600. His email addy is frank_newport@gallup.com.

This is my letter:

Mr Newport,

I heard yesterday and received a subsequent email from the Nader campaign that you use “internal judgment” to decide who is listed on the presidential polls. As I understand it (and correct me by explanation, if you will) there is no real standard, just ‘your’ judgment.

Excuse me if I think that is corrupt and ludicrous. Who the hell are you to make a decision such as this, knowing damned well that America wants and expects more?

I take this as nothing more than you and your organization being owned by the Two Party system in America and a certain unpatriotic stance. This, sir, is un-American and you should be ashamed.

Perhaps we, as Americans, shouldn’t be surprised. Because, until now, I have generally held Gallup as an esteemed source (unbiased) and generally trustworthy. That is likely because I fell for the mumbo-jumbo and have generally felt that most Americans are, in truth, caring about America. But, sir, America is waking up and they will hold you and your organization accountable… this I promise.

This action, by Gallup, proves nothing more to me than you are in their pocket and are controlled by crooks and liars. This will become your association, forever, unless you right the bullshit today. Americans have had enough of this and should you actually care about America, it is high time you people became more patriotic and less controlled by the same people who have brought America to its knees.

You have till midnight to correct the ignorant sheeple-like complicity or there will be a mass education initiative to inform Americans of how corrupt your organization has become.

I am posting this letter at my blog and intend to follow your responses and post them as I get them today.

This Will Be Your Last Warning! Correct your idiotic foolishness or suffer the terrible publicity to follow. We have had enough!

B’Man (real name used)

Its Time To Take Back America From The Two Party System

Open the Presidential Debates… or we will!

When the debates are limited to two increasingly similar points of view we all suffer. The ThirdPartyTicket.com debate is an important step in our efforts to take back the political process. Our message– “Open the debates, or we will!“

B’Man: I’m pledged and support this effort. We will never break the matrix if we all simply agree with the bullshit. It is time that we, as independently and progressively thinking Americans, take back the system. It is time that this country’s leadership begin listening to us and not the Corporate Interests that control both McCain and Obama. Obama is not progressive. Period. He is owned by the same Corptocracy that owns Bush, McCain and the rest of the THUGS who run this country (damn near into the ground).

It is imperative that we start and the best way is to make sure that we demand that the third party candidates get a chnace to speak the message that we are all waiting to hear from a politician. It is not ok to go along with the system.

I can’t tell you how many times people express that it simply cannot happen (getting past the gate keepers) and that they basically just fall on their backs, giving up without any fight. Is that American? Is that good for this country or what the citizens need?

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Who Wrote Their Speech?

I received this from BrassCheckTV this morning and it is very telling. The two Prime Ministers (Stephen Harper and John Howard) from two of our closest allies, Canada and Australia, going into the war in Iraq read speeches that are virtually word-for-word, the same.

The question remians, “who wrote that speech?”

Now, do you think there could have been some sort of conspiracy between these countries or did the Canadian Minister simply plagiarize the Autralian Minister’s speech. Perhaps the Canadian speech writer has a night job?

Or do you think they are simply America’s pawns?