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The Brave Boys In Blue In Chattanooga, TN
Posted by BuelahMan on January 10, 2009
I normally don’t dog cops, except when they do stupid shit. Most cops I know are decent folks. (The local police chief is really a good, hard-working guy by all accounts). But, there is a certain portion of police forces who truly believe they are above the law and can do shit like this and get away with it, simply because of that blue (the uniform and the weapon).
This old fella was doing his job and asking the cop to stop to check his receipt at Wal-Mart. Apparently, cops don’t like being held to the same accountability as normal customers in Chattanooga, but even worse is the coverup of the police force. Merry Christmas?
This sure ain’t the police chief I grew up with in Iuka, MS. I saw Jack Rye (now dead police chief from my home town) actually slap an officer once for calling an older woman a bitch. Oh: and you can bet your ass I would have been put in jail after I knocked his dick in the dirt, then sued these sorry-assed f*ckers for everything I could get.
I suppose the Chattanooga officer leadership has a totally different idea about respect and protection than I have. From Jonathon Turley:
Freeman: Chattanooga Police Department Declines to Charge Officer Who Allegedly Threw a 71-Year-Old Man to Floor and a Good Samaritan Through a Glass Door
The Chattanooga Police Department has decided that an officer who assaults two people, including pushing one through a plate glass window, will not be criminally charge. Det. Kenneth Freeman is truly a free man after, on Christmas Eve, shoving 71-year-old Wal-Mart greeter Bill Walker to the ground. Why? Because he was asking for a receipt check. Freeman then reportedly shoved Gholom Ghassedi through a glass door when he tried to assist Walker. The police routinely charge people with battery and resisting arrest if they touch the sleeve of an officer. Even hugging an officer or passing gas near an officer has led to a charge of assault. Yet, the Chattanooga Police Department can’t imagine what it would charge Freeman with after assaulting an elderly man and shoving good samaritan through a glass door.
Collegedale Judge Kevin Wilson has reviewed the complaint filed by Walker and decided that there was no room for an assault charge.
Walker said an alarm went off when Det. Freeman and another city police officer, Edwin McPherson, were leaving the store. He tried to stop Freeman and pushed against a soft drink machine and to the floor. He said the officer then stood over him in a threatening manner as he lay on the floor.
A customer, Gholom Ghassedi, then told Freeman, “You can’t push down an old man” and began struggling with him only to be shoved through a glass door. He was bleeding from his neck when officers arrived.
Cpl. Larry Robbins Jr. of the Collegedale Police said he decided not to bring assault charges against Det. Freeman because the incident was a misdemeanor not committed in the presence of an officer — not counting the officer doing the beating of course. He further insisted that, since Gholom Ghassedi, did not seek medical attention, it did not meet that criteria. Finally, he explained “there were no other crimes committed along with the possible simple assault.”
If that seems a bit ridiculous, it is. There is a host of possible charges here in the abuse of an elderly person and assault on not one but two individuals. The police department had to struggle to find a way not to charge Freeman, insisting that they were “unable to determine at the scene that there was any intent to commit an assault.” Well, whatever his intent, he succeeded in knocking an elderly man to the ground and throwing another through a door. Was that all involuntary muscular reflex?
By the way, Freeman was involved in a scuffle with attorney Lloyd Levitt at the Courts Building in May 2007. What is clear is that the problem is not just Det. Freeman, but the Chattanooga Police Department itself.
For the full story, click here.
indieregister said
While the police officer should have shown restraint and was unjustified in shoving the man, it’s important to note that he had no obligation to stop for a receipt check and the Wal-Mart greeter had no right to grab his arm.
Are police are exempt from receipt checks? Sure they are. So am I, so are you, and so is anyone else who doesn’t want to participate. Under Tennessee law, stores can only detain someone for shoplifting if they have probable cause, a high legal standard that pretty much requires some sort of proof. In big-box stores like Wal-Mart, security alarms go off hundreds of times a day, and only a sliver of those are for actual shoplifters, so an alarm is a far cry from probable cause.
A receipt check is simply a consent search. Store employees can ask to paw through your bags and pore over your receipt, and if you say yes, you’ve agreed to a voluntary search of your property. If you say no, they cannot legally detain you unless they’re prepared to offer proof that you’ve stolen something.
It amazes me that so many people stop for the receipt checkers. Personally, I don’t like being treated like a juvenile delinquent, so I keep walking. I’m always polite and friendly… there’s no reason to disrespect those greeters and security guards just doing their jobs, but a simple no thank you doesn’t cause them any harm.
BuelahMan said
It never said he touched him. He asked him to stop and the Big Blue Ego didn’t like that.
Are you going to justify the pushing down of a 71 year old man, then throw another guy through a window?
Amazing. You MUST be a cop.
indieregister said
Other media accounts of the incident indicate the greeter grabbed him. See: http://www.newschannel9.com/news/officer_974544___article.html/freeman_charged.html
Of course the attacks were unjustified, as I wrote in my initial comment. I don’t defend the detective’s conduct, just his decision not to stop and show his receipt.
I’m not a police officer, just a consumer rights advocate who’s concerned that people mistakenly believe these receipt checks are mandatory and they have to participate.
“The same accountability as normal customers”? No customer has to tolerate these insulting and unnecessary searches. Just say “No, thanks” and keep on walkin’.
BuelahMan said
No customer has to tolerate these insulting and unnecessary searches. Just say “No, thanks” and keep on walkin’.
Insulting? An alarm goes off, someone asks you to show a receipt and that is “insulting”? I am not arguing legality or someone’s right to “just say no”.
But the alarm also can go off if someone is stealing shit, so I see no problem with the people asking the question.
The news account is the cop’s attorney’s response, as reported.
On a personal level: How many times has a 71 year old person touched you and you push them down?
Cop or not… Legal or not… consumer activism or not… this is wrong on every level and the purpose of my post was to point out the abuse of that cop. Your response sounded almost like a defense of him.
Jeff Hall said
indieregister: The police officer wasn’t stopped as part of a register check. Two employees tried to stop him.
The (71-year old) first employee tried to stop him because the shoplifting alarm went off. In other words, there was evidence that a crime had been committed.
The second employee tried to stop him because he saw him beat up the first employee. Again, there was evidence that a crime had been committed, in this case the senior citizen lying on the ground.
BuelahMan said
Jeff,
It appears that some people have agendas which cause them to ignore detail.
Thanks for the clarification.
The cop was plain ole wrong and should be prosecuted and the entire city should be sued.
indieregister said
My agenda notwithstanding, I agree with you that the detective overreacted and committed simple assault, for which he should be prosecuted.
However, it remains legal fact that the employees had no right to detain the detective and the greeter should not have grabbed his arm. Merchants must have probable cause to believe a crime is committed before they detain someone. Setting off a store alarm doesn’t even approach PC, a stringent legal standard that requires hard evidence.
Security alarms go off hundreds of times a day, and only a sliver of these activations may signal shoplifting. Electronic article surveillance detects sensors that have not been properly deactivated at the register; it is not, as you suggest, a magic shoplifting detector. While the alarms may be a valuable deterrent to would-be thieves, they don’t provide reliable evidence for detention.
Customers are under no obligation to freeze like a scolded child because a robotic voice tells them to return to the store. I know I didn’t steal, and I’m not being paid to help this billionaire big-box figure out which products the cashiers aren’t correctly deactivating. Alarm or none, I don’t stop for receipt checks, and I encourage paying customers with dignity and self-respect to do the same.
BuelahMan said
it is not, as you suggest, a magic shoplifting detector. While the alarms may be a valuable deterrent to would-be thieves, they don’t provide reliable evidence for detention.
No one, here, has suggested any such thing. Another way to make your stance ignorable is to set up such false straw men. Like I said, I wasn’t arguing whether or not there are any rights violated. that is your schtick, and so far, from what I have heard, you are an atrocious spokesperson for those rights.
Customers are under no obligation to freeze like a scolded child because a robotic voice tells them to return to the store.
And who said they were supposed to? But what about common courtesy? Especially from a civil servant? You don’t know what tone of voice the SEVENTY-ONE year old man used, but I am sure he was truly intimidating to that officer.
I know I didn’t steal, and I’m not being paid to help this billionaire big-box figure out which products the cashiers aren’t correctly deactivating. Alarm or none, I don’t stop for receipt checks, and I encourage paying customers with dignity and self-respect to do the same.
Good for you, Mr Advocate. I join you in your ideology that, too, will allow any thief to do as they want, when they want.
Please go away.
I have heard enough of your “advocacy”.
(puke)
Terri Shockley said
I am related to Kenneth Freeman by marriage. what the news has conv1ently left out is that the alarm went off when customers in front of freeman left the store, he had h1s gun on h1s s1de and the Walmart employee ran up and grabbed h1m from beh1nd. he thought someone was go1ng for h1s gun and he reacted. 1 l1ve 1n SC, so 1′ve not seen any news coverage, just heard second hand and read the blogs and the news art1cle on the chattanoogan webs1te wher he 1s be1ng tr1ed 1n the court of publ1c op1n1on. Why w1ll Walmart not release the store v1deo tape? Because 1t d1dnt happen the way the cowboy walmart greeter cla1ms. Does no one f1nd 1t odd that a v1deo of th1s “attack”? as for the other assault all1gat1on by the lawyer, he jumped up and was yell1ng 1n freemans face 1n a courthouse. freeman pushed the man away from h1m. Kenneth Freeman 1s a good man, who would never slam and yell at an elderly man. He 1s devastated and he and h1s fam1ly are be1ng harassed. 1t’s easy to throw a cop under the bus, because there are so many d1rty ones who th1nk they are above the law. 1f th1s happened the way 1ts cla1med, why 1s the walmart v1deo not all over the news? Because 1t d1dnt happen the way people say.
BuelahMan said
Hi Terri,
Its not that I don’t believe you, but to have some sort of relative say these things and no media coverage is questionable.
Terri,
Do you honestly believe a 71 year old man scared your brother in law?
He said the officer then stood over him in a threatening manner as he lay on the floor.
Yeah, he was scared shitless of the skinny old man, right? I have seen the pic of the cop, and let me say that such a stance is ludicrous. The fact of the matter is that there are MANY cops who pull this shit. Badge making them very physical and egotistical. The fact of the matter is that this country is becoming a “police State” and each and every abuse needs to be handled with the fullest extent of the law and there should never be any cover-up of such abuse.
Is that the case with freeman? I dunno and I sure don’t expect a relative to say so.
As for the video? What proof is the “absence” of a video owned by Wal-Mart? Are you saying because there is no video, it didn’t happen?
That’s a grasp. There are a million reasons why a video has not been released (the biggest being the law suit that hopefully ruins the savages that protect their monsters in blue).
Thanks for dropping in, but there is no amount of bullshit that can cover up the over-reaction of your brother-in-law (or whatever).
I hope to hell he is tore up about this, but I would be lying if I believed that. Crooked and evil cops get tore up when they get caught. Until then they push old men down and stand over them intimidating them.
The reality is that IF he actually thought a person was going for his gun, that person who be arrested and have to deal with the justice system. Amazing how none of that shit happened. I guess cause Mr Freeman is such a wonderful human being, right?
And is it right for Mr Freeman to push the other guy around for saying something, even SCREAMING it?
Yeah, right.
You don’t understand the law any more than your brother in law does.
Do you know how many people languish in jail today because of “what people say”?
I’ll await some evidence that actually backs what you say. I have offered proof of my bitch. Fair is fair.
I’ll be right here when you come back.
Mr Freeman is welcome to share his side here at any time (if you care to let him know he is invited).
ceanf said
Terri, i don’t know how you could refer to a 71 year old man as a cowboy walmart greeter. And i also don’t see how you could believe the claim that an 71 year old man ‘ran’ up behind hind and grabbed him, causing him to think someone was after his gun. What you are hearing from your pig relative is a standard police cover story mean to justify their wrong actions. You say that Kenneth is a good man who would never slam or yell at an elderly citizen, yet that is EXACTLY what he did. And then he proceeded to throw another man through a window. He is just the kind of office i would want to see on my local PD! Don’t believe everything you hear, especially when what you are hearing is from a corrupt pig who likes to beat up on citizens because it makes him feel better.
Moving on your video topic, well it seems that the video does not exist. If it did exist, the prosecutor could subpoena that walmart for the tape. As we discovered from the black friday tragedy, most walmarts don’t have security cameras in the area where people enter and leave the store. If they did, they would have had footage from inside the store of those people trampling that man. If a tape did exist, i am sure it would be more than enough evidence to convict Freeman of assault.
Though Freeman’s family doesn’t deserve to be harassed, Freeman himself should be devastated and should be harassed. He is lucky that is all he is dealing with as a result of his cowboy pig actions.
Terri Shockley said
Buelah man, call1ng me a b1tch 1s unnecessary. 1 have no proof,ne1ther do you. You all have clearly made up your m1nd. Truth of the matter 1s that ne1ther one of us were there.There was a v1deo from walmart,that 1s why Freeman 1s a free man(that was so clever 1n the paper).The attorney general has the v1deo that was shown 1n court.That 1s why he was not charged w1th assault of the walmart employee, who 1 called a cowboy for runn1ng up and grabb1ng freeman from beh1nd. As you sa1d youve seen h1s p1c, he’s a b1g man, not smart.1 d1dn’t say freeman was scared of a 71 year old man,that 1s stup1d.1f someone runs up and grabs me from beh1nd,1′d be throw1ng elbows or what ever 1t takes.Do you honestly bel1eve that he pushed a lawyer through a glass door and wasn’t charged or sued?As 1sa1d before,you’ve already dec1ded he’s gu1lty.More koola1d?
BuelahMan said
Terri,
Forgive me, but you must have misunderstood. I never called you a bitch. I said it was my bitch (as in that is what I’m bitching about) and never intended to call you anything (except a relative who would be swayed to protect their love one).
I have no axe to grind, nor any reason to accuse Mr Freeman of anything. But, contrarily, you DO have motive to defend him (if he is your relative).
There is but one person here with motive and it is you.
You like that word “cowboy”, don’t you. But, again, how many 71 year olds are really all that intimidating. A 71 year old “cowboy” who tried to check a person (who happened to have a gun) is doing his job. The man in blue, who is HUGE compared to this 71 year old can do one of two things. Stop or pull this shit.
From appearances and the report (which you have not given any contradictory sources) I would say that ego and his manliness disallowed stopping for a 71 year old doing his job. So he threw him on the ground and another through a window. Did he throw the 2nd guy down for yelling at him because he threw the 71 year old “cowboy” down or because the other guy was going for his gun, too?
You appear to know a lot about this so called video, but have you seen it? I haven’t. And I doubt you have and you are making several assumptions why it isn’t seen or used against these people. Perhaps your conjecture is correct. All I know is what is reported and to be honest, trust that more than you… a relative of the abuser.
I simply have given my opinion, garnered from facts out of a paper (linked and copying these facts). What you have presented thus far is your opinion with nothing to back it except innuendo and videos that you have not seen and assume are enough to send the charges packing.
However, there is just as likely a case that these charges are being thrown under a rug to protect your relative and until you can come here with some facts, links, then all you have is opinion on my blog (which you and Mr Freeman are free to come a visit at any time).
But don’t think that your defense of him is changing minds of anyone without any data to prove it.
I expect you to defend your family. But to try and prove anything different than the account that I have linked to and shared without anything except your words and the fact that your his family really is not much of a defense.
Come back and give us some links. Till then, the man “seems” like an egotistical prick with a gun, that is being protected from accountability. THAT is the appearance and mimics the move this country is making towards a police state, where the men in blue are protected from their abuses more than the citizen is from real crime. Taser usage and abuse is a prime example.
If you think this is crazy or “koolaid” talk, just pay a little bit of attention to what is happening. Watch videos about the RNC/DNC conventions and tell me they don’t abuse their power. Open any paper or turn on the TV to see men in blue abusing others.
Since your relative is a part of it, I would say that it is you who are the koolaid drinker. Not I.
Please come back with something substantive or don’t bother. T can provide detail without the coverup.
Thanks.
PS: Does the I not work on your pc?
Terri Shockley said
The letter(eye) doesn’t work on my pc.As much as a enjoy us1ng the number one, 1′ll make due.Freeman 1s marr1ed to husband’s cous1n, 1t’s not as 1f we were seperated at b1rth, 1 share a meal w1th h1m tw1ce a year at most.You cla1m to have “proof” by prov1d1ng a l1nk to an art1cle of someone’s op1n1on. 1 can’t, nor have 1 ever cla1med to have proof of anyth1ng that occured on Chr1stmas Eve, or at the courthouse, 1 am speculat1ng, as are you. 1 have not seen the walmart v1deo,1 w1sh 1t would be releasad to the local press. 1f Freeman 1s gu1lty of what he 1s accused of, he should be prosecuted. 1 am very aware of d1rty cops and people who’s author1ty go to the1r head.1 came across your blog wh1le look1ng at how the local med1a was portra1ng th1s story.As 1 sa1d before, ne1ther of us were there,therefore,ne1ther of us have “proof”. 1 have a hard t1me bel1ev1ng that freeman would be aqu1ted of an assault caught on v1deo tape.Espec1ally 1n a case that has been so publ1c1zed.Yes,pol1ce take care of the1r own,but th1s would requ1re the judge and prosecutor to be 1nvolved 1n th1s grand consp1racy, 1 have a hard t1me buy1ng that.The only 1ns1de 1nfo. 1 have 1s that the walmart employee(aka cowboy),when asked why he grabbed freeman when the alarm went off he sa1d 1t wasn’t because he’s black. Wh1ch usually means because he’s black.There 1 go speculat1ng aga1n. What 1 do know 1s freeman 1s a good Chr1st1an man who took care of h1s w1fe dur1ng a ser1ous bout w1th cancer.1s 1t poss1ble that he’s some k1nd of spl1t-personal1ty psycho monster, anyth1ng 1s poss1ble.Can we at least agree that not everyth1ng wr1tten 1n the paper or on the net 1s true.
BuelahMan said
Terri,
The “proof” of my bitch (which was the way I wrote the line) is an article about the incident. My “bitch” is that cops are too egotistical and overreact many times.
You have offered only your opinion.
You have split a hair for some reason.
I agree that we cannot always believe what we read in the paper. Can you agree that I cannot always believe an anonymous blog poster who claims to be some far off relative of a “good Christian” man with no other “proof” (evidence or factual representation, much like news articles are generally described)?
I don’t know you.
The paper has more clout with me (with the evidence you have thus far displayed).
That is not meant offensively.
And this doesn’t help you cause for the very reason I just mentioned:
“The only 1ns1de 1nfo. 1 have 1s that the walmart employee(aka cowboy),when asked why he grabbed freeman when the alarm went off he sa1d 1t wasn’t because he’s black.
Emphasis mine.
I don’t have “inside information”. I just have the paper’s account.
Who are you (am I) going to believe (if you’re in my shoes)?
Did the man stand over the 71 year old “cowboy” intimidatingly or not?
Did he throw a guy through a window for saying something to him for throwing a man down and standing over him in an intimidating way?
Did Freeman really just throw a wishful kiss in his direction and he fell down and through a glass door?
Jeezus
What’s your inside info got on those questions?
BuelahMan said
Terri,
After reviewing the original source that Jonathon linked to, I am even more secure in my position that Mr Freeman is a brute and egotistical monster, relationship notwithstanding. Your husband should disown this asshole.
Look, I have a bogus brother I won’t have much to do with. He is a prick and a liar. I sure as hell don’t believe him just because he is kin. It is easy to admit Freeman fucked up and is a fuck up.
Like I said, I would sue him and the entire god danged police force, if I were either of these guys your buddy mistreated.
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_141946.asp
Cpl. Larry Robbins Jr. of the Collegedale Police said he decided not to bring assault charges against Det. Freeman, saying the incident was a misdemeanor not committed in the presence of an officer, there were no injuries requiring medical attention, the suspect is not a flight risk, and “there were no other crimes committed along with the possible simple assault.”
He said the investigation would be ongoing, but he said he “was unable to determine at the scene that there was any intent to commit an assault.”
Collegedale Officer Paul Crosby said when he arrived at the scene he found a large group of people gathered outside the door of the store. He said some “were obviously angry and were pointing fingers and yelling.”
He said one man was “livid” and was pointing his finger at Det. Freeman while saying, “You are a police officer? Shame on you.”
Det. Freeman was involved in a scuffle with attorney Lloyd Levitt at the Courts Building in May 2007.
There was a policeman WITH him. The crowd was pissed at your innocent little stalwart of a police officer.
This is a coverup and your man has a previous history of this type of behavior.
Also, religious people (good Christian men) are some of the meanest, most evil liars and murderers on this planet. I am not impressed if he can bow his head, but can’t treat his elder with any respect.
Terri Shockley said
Thanks for mov1ng me to the top of your page. How am 1 “1ncessantly defend1ng my relat1ve” when 1 am request1ng the release of the v1deo. 1f he 1s gu1lty, he deserves to be lynched by the press and the publ1c.1f he 1s not gu1lty,back off. 1′m not try1ng to change your m1nd or anyone elses. 1 dont know how to place a l1nk, so search Kenneth Freeman on the Chattanoogan webs1te, look for lawyer story. The lawyer and the 1nfo from the anonymous lawyer don’t hold water, because they both have an agenda.1 guess a black-belt was scared of freeman after scream1ng 1n h1s face and be1ng pushed out of h1s personal space…scary.Be1ng a Chr1st1an doesn’t make h1m perfect,nor does 1t make h1m an ev1l,ly1ng,murderer.My only agenda was to 1nform people that from my exper1ence,Kenneth 1s a good fam1ly man. Could 1 be wrong, of course. Cprl.Robb1ns refered to th1s 1nc1dent as a “poss1ble s1mple assault”. Th1s was based on the pol1ce report(1 assume).Do you bel1eve a man could be pushed through a glass door and not have 1njur1es that requ1re med1cal treatment. 1f he bodyslammed a 71 year old man,1t seems l1ke he would at least need to be checked out.Just my op1n1on.
Terri Shockley said
Well, 1 saw the v1deo,and 1 am very d1sappo1nted. 1 wouldn’t have bel1eved 1t 1f 1 hadn’t seen 1t.1 feel sorry for Mr. Walker, as well as Kenneth’s fam1ly,who 1′m sure are d1sappo1nted,shocked,and embarassed.
BuelahMan said
Hi Terri,
I have not seen the video and still, thus far, my gripe is just that… an opinionated gripe.
I have known officers, however, who are the most wonderfully “Christian” men who can be as evil as any asshole I ever met (the sheriff from my hometown in Mississippi is that very way). I don’t know if this is true about Mr Freeman, but it appears that the badge causes many people to over inflate egos and self-determine that they are above the law and can do things that are normally illegal or intrusive… without a care about their actions.
My gut reaction is that they continue to do so because their leadership and government protects them and does not hold the bad apples accountable. This reconstitutes within them that it is OK to be over-the-top and to push people down, hit them with batons, mace and even shoot people.
To me, this is akin to the kid who was shot in the back in California. It all ends up going too far because these men in blue feel like their actions are acceptable no matter how atrocious.
I hope Mr Freeman is held accountable for his actions. Does that mean I want him fired? Not necessarily, but he and the police force need to make this right. If a guy under stress due to his job is not held accountable, then the real crazies feel like they can do whatever they like.
Unfortunately, it appears that this is not Mr freeman’s first instance in kind. If he is a repeat offender, then, sorry, he needs to find some other work.
Terri Shockley said
go to WCRB.com google kenneth freeman. They have the survalence v1deo as well as the prem1lary 1nternal affa1rs 1nvest1gat1on report. The whole th1ng happened very qu1ckley. Freeman was suspended w/o pay for 28 days, has to attend anger management, and “verbal judo”. He has been demoted from detect1ve to a beat cop(no pun 1ntended).
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JenniBell said
Whether or not Freeman was guilty of assaulting the greeter…
- it’s not chattanooga city police’s place (nor do they have authority) to charge him. the crime alledgedly took place in collegedale, tn and not in chattanooga city’s jurisdiction.
- secondly, the chatt po po policy has punished him for conduct unbecoming of an officer. they can’t punish him for something they can’t charge him with (see first point)
- thirdly, why is the question of him being police SUCH the big deal. police are regular people off duty. nothing special. the same steps would have been taken for any other person.
BuelahMan said
1) That is why I wrote about the Collegdale judge who is also a worthless piece of shit.
2) The Chatt Po “punished” him? Nice job, Chief.
3)A policeman is TRAINED to know the difference (at least they used to be). It makes a difference because if a person cannot trust a cop (on duty or not) to do the right thing, I would say we are all fucked. As a matter of fact, policemen should be held to a much higher standard and SHOULD be expected to be able to handle their steroid induced anger (or whatever induced the TRAINED man’s anger).
Personally, I think a citizen should have stepped up and whipped his ass just like any other citizen.
JenniBell, your arguments are not very good.
rod ward said
The chattanooga police force runs a murder / harassment for hire operation. They have harassed me for well over a year.
its not a pretty place to live
rod ward said
I am currently trying to leave town
Rod ward said
One good thing i can say about off ken freeman…
off kevin freeman is worse