
There should be a general rule in America that if someone begins defending Bush’s “conservatism” or his “war crimes”, that a Scarlet Letter “W” should be hung around their neck. A real conservative knows that George W Bush was never a fiscal conservative. Primarily, anyone who claims to be a conservative and defends the illegal invasion and war crimes by Bush and his cabal is no conservative and doesn’t have a clue what conservatism is about. You are but another reTHUGlican who wants to claim some mantle, when point in fact is that you have no idea what the mantle means or what it is to carry it. One key way to know is that if you disagree with Ron Paul, then you are no REAL conservative (and he is about the closest thing we have to a real conservative this country has).
So when you come here, asking questions like:
What has Bush done that can be deemed war crimes?
Do not expect to be treated as if you are some inquiring mind. I see you for what you are, someone, intentional or not, who is complicit in the tearing down of our liberties and reputation in the world by your foolish defense of the indefensible.
Don’t be surprised if you encounter this type of post as a response (first kindly, hoping you are just retarded and don’t know better, but suspecting the worse):
Extraordinary rendition, establishing and endorsing torture, illegal wiretapping of American citizens, illegal invasion of a Sovereign country that had done nothing to us, lies and deceit to lead us into that bogus and financially debilitating disaster and the murder of each and every Iraqi and American serviceman lost in this idiotic “war for profit”. He and his ilk are instrumental in the financial fleecing and banker’s bailout. His multitude of illegal “signing statements”, and if I were to guess, his part in the 9/11 attack/coverup.
Should I go on?
Nice and to the point with perhaps a single debatable issue (the illegal wiretapping, and
that could be a war crime if wars were started by using lies propagated from those wire taps or if torture was conducted because of those wire taps). But in every other instance I quickly noted, there is a strong opinion in this country (and obviously the rest of the world) that W and his corrupt crew of like-minded criminals did, in fact, conduct war crimes.
Just because Obama is not forcing the investigation simply proves that he is corrupt also, but certainly does not prove that W is innocent.
But the giveaway that this particular “conservative” is nothing more than another Party ideological water carrier, is his response to my quick note:
How is illegal wiretapping ANYWHERE close to a war crime?
Bush couldn’t have been more CALM during 9/11.
Terrorists were tortured…now they are released and doing their killing again. I don’t advocate torture on anyone, but it was better than releasing them.
Illegal invasion? Congress voted on a resolution! Iraq gassed so many Kurds! Saddam was a tyrant! He had his sons rape
newlywedded wives and forced the husbands to watch!
The financial crisis? Blame the banks that loaned to those who could not pay!
Nearly all of Congress knew Iraq had WMDs.
Ask Ted Kennedy about that.
“Bush couldn’t have been more calm”, so he is no war criminal? WTF? What does that mean?
I would venture to say that most murderous war criminals “seem” calm during the murderous event they are conducting. Ted Bundy was extremely calm as he enticed his victims into his killer’s lair. The Cho guy was “calm” as he killed all those kids. Jeffrey Dahmer was “calm” right before he ate his victims. And Cheney was calm as he denied sending NorthCom in to stop the jets from hitting the buildings, or when they “pulled” the buildings a few hours later.
Calm as a gentle rain of thermite.
“Terrorists” or people were tortured? Some were innocent and have been paid off by our government. You cannot think, truly, that each and every person taken in and tortured by us or our designates in Black Site Prisons were “terrorists”, do you? I don’t give a damn how many people you claim were the opposite, show one. But there is ample proof that even children were imprisoned/tortured. Erroneous bullshit, no matter how “scary” or to what effect is meant is the height of ignorance or complicity. Maybe you get your jollies out of knowing children and innocent “brown people” were tortured and killed? Some “conservatives” are like that, but not REAL Conservatives. Here is what a Fake Conservative says about torturing children by crushing their testicles (which I am sure you are in complete agreement with):
Cassel: If the president deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?
Yoo: No treaty.
Cassel: Also no law by Congress — that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo…
Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.
-Human rights expert Doug Cassel and John Yoo, 12/1/05
REAL conservatives are called “conservative”, meaning they “conserve”. They conserve money (Bush spent more than any other president alive and then set up this financial ravaging for Obama to complete). They conserve weapons. They conserve lives and even children’s testicles, imagine that. They aren’t simply Party Clowns.

Saddam Hussein was indeed a bad guy, yet because of your hero, W, we have killed or caused the deaths of far more people than he did. (You didn’t seem to mention the FACT that Saddam Hussein killed on behalf of US, a minor misunderstanding on your part, I suppose). We gave him the weapons and technology. It was our country that supported Saddam’s rise to power. It was your other hero Rumsfeld shaking Saddam’s hand. But somehow this is justifiable to you? That is is ok to lie to the American public (and the world) to mislead us into supporting an illegal murderous invasion and kill countless little children.
You and your type are dangerous for this country, unless we can figure out a way to get through the MSM bullshit and brainwashing that has taken over America.
I vote that this country, preferably your hero, W, give you a one way ticket to your favorite vacation spot, Iraq. I can only hope that you two sit side by side and then leave the comfort of the plane to see your welcoming committee in Iraq take you in with open arms and kisses to each side of your face. I am quite sure that you will be welcome with open arms, especially by all the widows and children whose parents were gunned down by our illegal, murderous invasion. I’m sure they will see your “conservatism” and welcome you in the proper fashion.
Snarking aside, of course I don’t want you dead, conservative09. I want you to wake up and realize that there is a small, but growing contingent of Americans that are waking up. We have had several communications since I started this blog post which truly turned my mind about its decision that you are just a sycophant and hence, the direction of this post.
I am still blasting fake conservatives, but just as we discussed, we truly need to stop the rhetoric fed us by The Elite and begin to evaluate the truth on the wedge issues, then focus on the things that are causing our country’s demise. The wedge issues are nothing in comparison and that is the point. The Elite wants us fighting over bullshit, while they are ravaging the country as we look away.
Just as we discussed, we have many things in common. Without politics involved, it is entirely likely that you and I would get along famously. But I would have to been totally honest that we don’t have time for this inane bickering about subjects that don’t matter. You may not think that W is a war criminal, but that would put you in the world’s minority. I also believe that there will come a day of recompense and retribution for him and the entire cabal.
You wrote:
I get annoyed when people make charges with no proof. Maybe there are things Bush has done that can be war crimes. I understand your anger from him. But be fair.
The way any criminal investigation should work starts with the “charge” of a crime. I think there is ample “proof” even from Mr Bush’s own words, that he was instrumental in the torture policy. I believe there is ample proof that the facts were “ginned up”, even totally falsified to convince the American public (and the rest of the world) to support this illegal invasion. There is certainly enough for a voracious and non-complicit justice department to see if what has been done is illegal. The fact that Bush’s justice department was filled with cronies is reason enough to suspect a coverup of illegality.And now with the proof of thermitic residue found in the 9/11 dust, I believ there is ample proof that something sinister and purposeful was done by Americans… TO Americans.
Now, how do you feel about finding the nonoparticle thermitic dust in the 9/11 remains? Is that reason enough for a “conservative” to want real criminal investigations to happen?
What would it take for a conservative09 to begin to consider all the facts and not just the ones that Fox news and Rush want you to know?
Seriously, I am curious to the answer. What does it take to suspect someone when it appears glaringly obvious to me and many millions of others?