I have a few young family members that just had Spring Break. I called them personally and asked them to not go to Florida (or anywhere on the Gulf Coast). I explained to them that I believe that swimming, eating the seafood (maybe some people don’t mind their fish with lesions on it), or even frollicking in the sand could be hazardous to their health.
As far as I know, only one relative went (after telling me on the phone that she wasn’t going). I have yet to speak with her about it (and probably won’t). Young people have priorities very different than an old guy like me, I understand that. But had one of my uncles ever personally called me and asked me to not do something, I would have evaluated sources and information shared with me and made my own decision. I hope she did this.
Would she have seen the news that shrimpers keep pulling up nets full of oil (found in the Courthouse News Service link above):
At a scoping meeting last week in Biloxi, Miss., Vietnamese shrimpers said they have pulled up nets full of oil from the seafloor and have had to decide whether to report the oil to the Coast Guard, which would mean dumping their day’s catch, or pretend they don’t see the oil.
John Lliff, a supervisor with NOAA’s Damage Assessment Remediation and Restoration Program, said no one knows how much of the seafloor is covered in oil. …
Shrimpers in Biloxi also said that in places where shrimp have been plentiful, there are no shrimp now. …
If she had been investigating my claims, she may have found one such article that caught my attention where I was informed that Mississippi’s Attorney General, Jim Hood, attended various Town Hall meetings in South Mississippi to find that the biggest complaint was not the slow financial payouts by BP’s hired hand, Feinberg, (I covered him here) but more related to how many people are getting sick:
[Waveland resident Laurie] Lambert said, “I mean there’s people getting sick everywhere and nobody realized how bad it is.”
“It makes me sick to see little kids swimming out there in that water. There’s dead fish everywhere. I mean, that alone is nasty. That’s just a cause right there for health problems,” said Lambert.
While others were a bit more poignant describing their ailments:
“When they started burning the dispersants out there, my lungs caught on fire. I have emphysema and COPD,” Martin Rehbein said.
He is now beginning to see skin problems. He wants Hood to know he’s convinced it’s caused from the spill.
“These things just started coming out and this has gotten a lot worse,” said Rehbein.
I wonder if she saw any of the 136 dead bottlenose dolphins that seem to be washing up all over the coast during her visit? From MSNBC:
As of Monday night, scientists counted 136 bottlenose dolphin carcasses found since mid-January along the shores of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida, almost half of them newly born or stillborn infants.
And [Blair Mase, NOAA's stranding coordinator for the Southeast] noted that “we’re still in the response phase” since carcasses are washing up daily, including at least two on Tuesday in Louisiana.
Or the new rash of sea turtles dying in droves?
“In the past couple of weeks, we’ve seen an increase” in turtle deaths in the northern Gulf, Connie Barclay, a spokeswoman for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told msnbc.com.
Since March 15, she noted, 39 deaths were confirmed in Mississippi, 4 in Alabama and 3 in Louisiana.
I will admit that when I read at Digital Journal (via Activist Post) that the Obama Administration decided to restrict finding on these dead dolphins referenced above, it causes me to consider that we have just another lie and cover-up in the making. But what else is new with the Fascist State?
And like everything else I bitch about here, surely any thinking person will admit the huge possibility that things are far worse in this situation than officials will ever admit to. Just consider that for every dead animal that washes ashore, there is likely many more that don’t make it to be seen:
The death toll from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill goes far beyond the animal corpses washing ashore, says a report that warns that whale and dolphin deaths may be 50 times higher than believed.
The report, by an international team of marine mammal specialists, estimates that for every corpse that washes ashore another 50 may never be found.
FLORIDA MEGASTORM: WORST YET TO COME, 3/31/11 10 a.m.
400 lightning strikes in 20 minutes, widespread flooding, power outages near Brooksville and points east. This is from the first hours of this storm, although it was turbulent overnight.
Majority of storm still out in Gulf, aimed at coast just north of Clearwater. Storm moving 45 mph. They keep extending the tornado watches. Wind 100 mph in places.
Lots of reported tornado sightings. Everything canceled, people running for cover. Weather guy on channel 8 is explaining it as just another cold front. Lots of high rises on the beach near St. Pete are in big trouble in about 15 minutes.
Dutchsinse called this two days ago on YouTube.
Report from St. Pete: “My dogs have been freaking out since Sunday night.”
National Weather Service: “Main threat straight line winds.” Hmm, that would put the multiple tornadoes second. Lightning and hail #3.
Speaking of some way to stir this mess up even more and then dump it further inland. One of the early fears about this poison dump was “what if” a big storm hit? It appears we may see what happens. My prayers and hopes for the safety of those citizens go out.
Now, I don’t think that my young niece has any immediate health effect to deal with, but from what I have read it doesn’t necessarily happen immediately. I also understand that most that have had ill effects are full time residents, by and large.
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Kenneth Feinberg was championed by President Hope Change as an impartial money changer for those in the Gulf region that were screwed by BP’s poisoning of America’s greatest seafood source and playground for many folks looking for some fun in the sun.
He told America:
“I’m confident he will ensure that claims are administered as quickly, as fairly and as transparently as possible.”
I can list so many miscalculations (aka “lies”) by Hopey Changeo, so this shouldn’t surprise anyone. The question really is “how stupid is Obama”? Just how ineffectual, how miscalculating, how inept is this man who is our king? The answer, of course, is that he is NONE of these things. He is probably brilliant (certainly not stupid), he is probably calculating exactly what the end game is due to what he is told must occur, and as far as ineptness is concerned, he is perfectly capable of carrying out the real agenda.
So, why Feinberg? And why in the hell is BP paying him, if this is supposed to be fair and transparent? And more importantly, why did he get a 50 % RAISE? Is it because the lawyers are now working 8 hours per day (have mercy on their litigating souls)?
That’s what the Alberto Gonzales replacement, Michael Mukasey, said; that the lawyers are working very hard and up to 7.9 hours per day:
On Friday, former U-S attorney Michael Mukasey, who was hired by Feinberg to review the GCCF, released a letter stating Feinberg’s firm deserved the raise because Feinberg’s staff now spends more time on claims. Mukasey says the firm’s attorneys average daily hours have gone up from 6.4 to 7.9 hours.
Feinberg and the Gulf Coast Claims Facility “are acting for and on behalf of BP Exploration & Production Inc. in fulfilling BP’s statutory obligations as a “responsible party” under the Oil Pollution Act of 1990.” And he is doing it for $1.25M/month and is contracted until the end of this year, at the least. Nice payout, isn’t it?
So how do the local residents feel about it?
Forgive me, but I cannot help but make the Jewish/Zionist connection between Feinberg and Mukasey. For such a small percentile of Americans who are Jewish and are in charge of shit, how is it possible that so many Zionists are in power positions?
Maybe it is because they are so fair and transparent?
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The TV may tell you that it is over (or simply ignore the issue, as instructed from on high), but there is not a chance in hell I am going to eat ANYTHING from the Gulf of Mexico for a very long time. I will NOT eat ANY shrimp, unless I can be convinced that it originates from elsewhere and is safe. This means that those trips to the Chinese and Mexican restaurants are over (not that I do it very often, anyway).
Why? Because the government and media lie with abandon. As I first questioned long ago, why aren’t people having independent tests done? When they do they find a totally different result than the “official” testers do (isn’t that amazing how that works). Seriously, a “smell test”? There are far more accurate and scientific means of ensuring the food is safe. I can only think of one reason why they would NOT conduct those tests and rely on the ineffectual tests: hiding something.
So, when a local DOES collect a sample and have it independently tested, what do they find?
When Mac learned that the Gulf shrimp testing performed to date had not included an analysis of whole shrimp with intact shells or digestive tract, she decided to mobilize. She obtained two pounds of locally caught shrimp from Venice, a small town located in the heart of Southern Louisiana. The samples were promptly transported on ice to a laboratory in Mobile Alabama, where Chemist Dr. Robert Namen tested the digestive tracts of the shrimp for components of crude oil. What they found was an alarming 193 parts per million of “Oil & Grease.”
I have a friend that I graduated high school with that is in the medical field and lives down in New Orleans. I have been quite concerned about her and her family and have asked her about the situation down there and if she and her family are well. The response I got was so very cryptic as to give me pause: she said that she would have to speak with me in person to explain. This person has never been quiet about anything in her life, as far as I know (very outspoken and knowledgable), so when she made that comment I knew to NOT quiz her about it. Something very strange is being conducted, to a point that I made the assumption she is afraid to say anything. I could be wrong.
But, there are those that will speak up (and from the looks of it, she needs to, if exposure to contaminant in the Gulf caused this):
Lisa Nelson of Orange Beach, AL is one of a growing number of people sickened and dying as a result of the BP disaster. Local physicians have no idea how to diagnose or treat patients who have bee exposed to highly toxic crude/dispersant combination. Local, State, and federal agencies continue to cover-up nad offer zero assistance.
From a cursory glance, it looks like the woman went thru a horrible car wreck or something. The bruises and the swelling… I mean, this woman is a doll and look what happened to her. And she isn’t the only one. There are many more people sick from this and very few Doctors will even discuss any potential for chemical poisoning. It’s a flu or virus or something else.
But what if they could prove that the sea life is dying, too? I mean surely the huge fish kills mean something, don’t they? What about the coral reefs that support much of that life?
Coral, Marine-Life Devastation Near BP Oil Spill Indicates Much Worse Long-Term Damage Than Feds Had Admitted
“What we have at this point is the smoking gun,” said Charles Fisher, a biologist with Penn State University who led the expedition aboard the Ronald Brown, a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration research vessel.
“There is an abundance of circumstantial data that suggests that what happened is related to the recent oil spill,” Fisher said.
It is almost as if every single communication that the government issues and asks for feedback is fraught with problems. Many can’t even reply via email or online forms to attend events scheduled to allow citizens to participate. They also have a revolving door of officials who first ok’d the usage of the banned Corexit (banned in the UK and most of Europe) and now are in charge of the citizen communications. From Activist Post:
The November 3rd EPA press release claims their Restoration Task Force wants to hear from the public, but when coastal residents attempt to RSVP they are informed that the registration deadline was November 1st (two days prior to when the EPA let concerned citizens know about the event).
Lisa Jackson, the EPA administrator that approved countless exemptions for the use of the COREXIT is hosting a public meeting Monday in Pensacola, Florida that will help the public deal with the effects of dispersed oil. Here’s is what the release said, “President Obama issued an executive order in October to create the Gulf Coast Ecosystem Restoration Task Force, continuing the administration’s ongoing commitment to the gulf region. The task force works to integrate federal restoration efforts with those of local stakeholders and state and tribal governments, and to facilitate accountability and support throughout the restoration process. Document
Most residents on the coast maintain that BP‘s 100 million dollar PR campaign has all but silenced the free press while independent test results tell a much different story than our federal agencies would have us believe. “I find it ironic that the same person (Lisa Jackson) that approved the use of the chemical that poisoned the Gulf is now in charge of recovery… Now the company responsible for this mess is telling our government agencies what is safe for it‘s citizens?”, said Cherri Foytlin, the wife of an out of work oil worker, “I attended the Clean Gulf Conference sponsored by most of the major players in the Industry. Marty Cramer of Conoco Phillips announced, ‘The use of dispersants and burning of oil is no longer considered an alternative solution – it is the solution.’ What is a public hearing without the voice of the people? Some of the people in that meeting should already be in jail.”
I don’t know what is going on, but it seems clear that a cover-up is ongoing. When I see people who live there saying they won’t eat the stuff, I sure as hell won’t.
Did you actually believe the man would swim in the Gulf or let his daughters do so?
Look, I knew from the get-go that he would never swim in that shit. Any sane person would stay out (and believe me that it makes me sick to see many of my friends ignore more warnings and make their way down to Florida to swim in and eat that tainted mess). There isn’t a chance in hell that I would even breathe the air down there, much less stick a toe in the water (and an impossibility of me allowing my daughter to get near that poisonous soup).
I warned my sister. She ignored it and went anyway to find:
The main public beaches in Pensacola were being attacked late at night/early morning by countless white vans cleaning up. However, just a couple of miles away, in Ft Pickens, there was NOTHING being cleaned up. This is a pay area that isn’t frequented as much as the public beaches.
Not only did she find tar balls, she freaked over the “tar sheets” as she called them. Harder than jello, but a similar consistency. And sheets the size of something you would put on your bed.
She said it was a cover-up at night and a show during the day. She said it reminded her of the movie “Jaws”… people everywhere having fun in the sun, all-the-while there is danger lurking in the water. She came back a changed person. She, after all these years of me telling her it is so, now sees this government as the criminal enterprise it is.
Everything going on down there right now is a huge cover-up. There are terrifically unbelievable lies being told to the mass of Americans and for some reason, most are believing it. Most will eat that Gulf shrimp in their next Chinese meal and tell us how good it tastes. Not understanding that the government is using a “sniff test” as its means of checking that stuff out for you. As safe as you KNOW you are and understanding that you are “in good hands” of the loving, care-taking government, maybe a sniff test is all you require. I’ll leave that decision up to you, but at this house, we won’t be consuming any Gulf seafood any time soon.
It boils down to this: Why would I ignore the warnings of the people who provide this stuff and believe a man who would not even swim in the shit that he is telling the rest of us is ok?
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reports that of all the samples of seafood that have been tested since the oil spill, none have shown evidence of contamination.While some in the coastal seafood industry agree with these assessments, a majority seem to view the news with a sense of betrayal.
“The cleanup isn’t even close to being done,” said Karen Hopkins of Dean Blanchard Seafood, which accounts for about 11 percent of the U.S. shrimp supply, on the barrier island of Grand Isle.
“The last thing I want to do is scare anyone away from the seafood down here,” said Dawn Nunez, standing at the counter of the shrimp wholesale business and deli she owns in the tiny fishing town of Hopedale. “But if I’m not eating it or feeding it to my children, I can’t advise anyone else to eat it either.”
Let me see… the very people who make their living off of providing this stuff to America won’t let his own children eat it. But you want to slurp up as much of it as you can on a liar’s word? You just eat that shit and over time, you will see the results.
The New York Times reported over the weekend that a group of fishermen and conservationists are protesting the publicity push. Tracy Kuhns, of Louisiana Bayoukeeper, a local conservation group, told The Times she “watches in disbelief as [Obama's] White House serves Gulf seafood to assure the public of its safety.”
“Come to my house,” added Kuhns. “And I won’t pretty it up before you show up. I won’t tell you, the seafood I pull out of [the water], that I feel comfortable feeding it to my grandbabies.”
According to The Times, “These fishermen see an alarming disconnect between the oil they continue to encounter on the water and the assurances they receive from state and federal officials that their nets and lines can go back in the Gulf.”
There’s also a lot of skepticism about the so-called “sniff test” that National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration officials use to determine seafood safety.
“How can they be doing a smell test to check for toxins in such a minute amount?” asked Chris Bryant, a 15-year commercial fishing veteran from Bayou La Batre, AL in the article.
“There is obviously a reason [dispersants] are considered toxic,” adds Bryant. “Maybe in a minute amount they won’t affect us in the short term, but if you continue to ingest them in a period of time, what are going to be the long-term effects? That’s something all the commercial fishermen are concerned about.”
“Fishermen would rather work cleaning the severely damaged Gulf than selling tainted seafood,” said Kuhns in a recent release.
h/t Food Safety News
Even NOAA admits that they don’t even test for the dispersants:
Are you getting the picture here? Do you understand that they are conducting “sniff tests” to see if they smell any contaminants and that they are NOT doing any scientific testing to see if that substance that is banned in much of the rest of the world is in the food we eat?
But the TV would lead you to believe that they are vigorously and thoroughly testing the food.
George sums it up like this:
The bottom line is that some Gulf seafood is probably safe and other Gulf seafood is probably not very safe, depending on where it swam in relation to the oil plumes and a host of other factors. But since the government is being close-lipped about the details of its test results – and isn’t even testing for dispersants – it is hard to know whether a particular piece of seafood is safe or not.
If it is hard (or impossible, given the “tests” used), then why in hell would you take the chance?
NOAA has expanded the closed fishing area in the Gulf to 35%. Notice that this includes most of America’s most prime fish production area (and some of the most accessible). Also notice how the expansion is moving towards the western coast of Florida. Given time, these areas will be closed, as well.
No matter if they actually do close this gusher off (at this point, the pressure tests are inconclusive), there has already been enough contamination to ruin almost all of it. And, yes, we keep hearing from the government-controlled lap-dog media that it isn’t leaking any more (except when they mess up and allow an expert to actually sneak in the same questions I keep asking people who tell me it is capped off):
Matt Simmons has been labeled Dr Doom of the Gulf disaster. But he has credentials that are hard to ignore, so, is it possible that the well head was already blown out and is leaking from many different places under the sea floor? Is all of this “capping” smoke and mirrors, as I suspect? It may just be my suspicion of all things government, but there are some things that still don’t add up to me (like why they appear to be dragging their feet at every opportunity… how this seems to be a major setup and someone like Exxon will end up owning BP, but not the disaster… etc). Maybe I am an uneducated Dr Doom Lite.
It’s not like NOAA doesn’t hide and coverup shit:
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is hoarding vast amounts of raw data that independent marine researchers say could help both the public and scientists better understand the extent of the damage being caused by the massive BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
In most cases, NOAA insists on putting the data through a ponderous, many-weeks-long vetting process before making it public.
In other cases, NOAA actually intended to keep the data secret indefinitely. But officials told the Huffington Post on Tuesday that they have now decided to release it — though when remains unclear.
BP, incidentally, gets to see all this data right away.
Cool. The murderer gets access all the evidence while all us victims get shit. Sounds about right.
And just in case you folks over on the eastern side of Florida think you have it made (or those of you in Europe, for that matter), there is another, more recent (and likely accurate) 360 day animation of how this spill will be taken around thru the filtering Florida Keys (meaning it will kill everything there, as well) then takes it up the eastern sea board and into the Atlantic Ocean.
These animations show the spread of the oil spill from the Deepwater Horizon rig over one year. They were created from a series of computer simulations by a team of researchers at the School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology, University of Hawaii at Manoa: Fabian Schloesser from the Department of Oceanography, Axel Timmermann and Oliver Elison Timm from the International Pacific Research Center Hawaii.
For the simulations, 5 million buoyant particles were released continuously from April 20 to September 17, 2010, at the location of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig. The release occurred in ocean flow data from simulations conducted with the high-resolution Ocean General Circulation Model for the Earth Simulator (OFES). The paths of the particles were calculated over 360 days from the beginning of the spill. The simulations were conducted with surface ocean circulation data of 5 typical years rather than the actual flow fields. The dispersal of the particles does not capture such effects as oil coagulation, formation of tar balls, chemical dispersion and microbial degradation. Computed surface concentrations relative to the actual spill may therefore be overestimated. The simulation, thus, is not a detailed, specific prediction, but rather a scenario that could help guide research and mitigation efforts.
The animations show the calculated surface particle concentrations for grid boxes about 10-km-by-10-km in size into April 2011. For an estimated flow of oil from the Deepwater Horizon well of 50,000 barrels per day over a 150 day period, a concentration of e.g. 10 particles per a grid box corresponds roughly to an oil volume of 2 m3 per ~100 km2 area. The animations show the initial spreading of oil into the Gulf of Mexico followed by its entry from the Loop Current into the narrow Florida Current and then the Gulf Stream. Transported by the Gulf Stream, the erratic paths of the particles in the Atlantic are due to strong current instabilities associated with ocean eddies and recirculations. This leads to a high degree of particle dispersal and dilution in the open Atlantic away from the coast.
These computer simulations suggest that the coastlines near the Carolinas, Georgia and Northern Florida could see the effects of the oil spill as early as October 2010. The main branch of the subtropical gyre is likely to transport the oil film towards Europe, although strongly diluted. Furthermore, the animations show that as the northeasterly winds intensify near Florida around October and November, the oil in the Atlantic moves closer to the eastern shores of the US, whereas it retreats from the western shores of Florida. These changes are due to a balance between wind forcing of ocean currents and the Coriolis effect.
The animations furthermore suggest that the narrow, deep Straits of Florida force the Florida Current into a narrow channel, creating a tight bottleneck for the spreading of oil into the Atlantic. After one year, about 20% of the particles initially released at the Deepwater Horizon location had been transported through the Straits of Florida into the open Atlantic according to an averaging over the 5 different years of typical ocean surface current data. The animations suggest that a filtering system in the narrowest spot of the Florida Current could mitigate the spreading of the oil film into the North Atlantic.
For more information, please see http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/soest_web/soest.gulf2010_longterm.htm
Man, please don’t get me wrong… I hope this thing is closed off. I hope that I am just a jaded bastard who has his trust misapplied and that is completely wrong about what I think is going on. I swear I hope I am wrong about my gut reaction.
It would be nice if someone could point me to some real good news about this (keeping my fingers crossed about this cap solution).
At least they have their fall guys selected.
The worst oil spill in U.S. history was triggered by firefighting boats that flooded the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig with water, causing it to sink into the Gulf of Mexico and damage BP Plc’s well, a lawsuit claims.
My little sister recently came back from Pensacola and confirmed almost everything I warned her about before she went. So, who are we going to believe? The government’s mouthpiece, those that we know personally and/or those that actually live there and are documenting the cover-ups:
h/t The Intel Hub
My family took regular vacations to Florida. We would always end up at PC Beach, hit the strip, dip for crabs from the shallow water along West Beach Drive, trap for crabs from the pier at St Andrew’s Marina, eat at Capt Anderson’s, go deep sea fishing and in the summer of 1974 we camped at a KOA campground in an RV. I will never forget it because it was the first time I ever got high by myself (and only the 5th or 6th time I ever got high).
They say the stuff burns your brain cells, but I remember that day like it was yesterday.
There was this latter day hippie dude who was living in an old bus, camped and sold leather goods. He was an extremely interesting guy who had little to do but talk to a young guy like me. The subject led to weed (me asking him about it) and he told me what he thought. It mellowed him out and made his days bearable. At the time, I wasn’t sure what he meant, but have learned with age.
Anyway, I convinced him to sell me a little bit (enough for a joint) and got him to roll it for me. He wouldn’t smoke it with me, but asked me to drop by later and tell him about it.
I snuck off and found a out of the way place and partook. After about 1/2 was gone, I began to feel good. So, I put it out, stuck it in my pocket, and walked over to the game room to play some pinball.
I will never forget the rush and swoon I felt as my head began to rush hard as I tried to follow the little silver ball. Next thing I know, I am flat on my back, looking up at the ceiling, and this hippie walks into view with a great big smile on his face. He said, “Do you feel mellow?”
I nodded… and laid there, smiling and content with the world.
Yeah, I know that the beaches are clean there and many other places in Florida that are, as of yet, unaffected. I know that people are desperate to get tourists to come lay their money down (at least one last time). I know the POTUS is asking people and that the Mississippi governor is telling everyone that there is no oil. But what else can they do? What choice do they have when they know this is the last chance to make a buck. I think they know that this is going to be the end of life as we know it.
We are hearing any reports of oil being found in Louisiana, parts of Mississippi and Alabama (and now Florida). However, as I have been pointing out, the level of nasty crap (carcinogens, and other VOC’s) in the air is beginning to be a major cause for concern:
My nephew called me (he is a boat hand on a barge) and told me he wanted to go down and help clean up (make some money, he hates his job). I told him that he needs to stay the hell away from the coast. Why? Because the workers are getting sick. History shows this. If you read that link, you will notice Niki Ott knows what she is talking about. And as much as I hate to link to Olbermann, he did interview her and she explains that like history repeating, BP is covering up the crimes:
I tend to listen to people who have lived thru something similar and have an answer that logically differs with the normal MSM spin.
I have no doubt that this is a Trillion Dollar Corporate Crime. But, since the corporations have taken over our government, this may be one of those Trillion Dollar “Fascist” Crimes. And who will keep BP from paying all the costs?
I wonder if its because O is a racist?
What a maroon.
Speaking of maroons, that 1/2 a joint I stuck in my shirt was also the first one my parents ever found (I was grounded on that vacation).