Could America Break Apart?

p1-ao116_ruspro_ns_20081228191715The Coming Collapse of the United States

h/t Neatorama

This is going on out there in lala land, because I doubt that those in power would ever let it happen without killing everyone of us.

From a Wall Street Journal article by By ANDREW OSBORN

As if Things Weren’t Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.

In Moscow, Igor Panarin’s Forecasts Are All the Rage; America ‘Disintegrates’ in 2010

Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces — with Alaska reverting to Russian control. […]

In September 1998, he attended a conference in Linz, Austria, devoted to information warfare, the use of data to get an edge over a rival. It was there, in front of 400 fellow delegates, that he first presented his theory about the collapse of the U.S. in 2010.

“When I pushed the button on my computer and the map of the United States disintegrated, hundreds of people cried out in surprise,” he remembers. He says most in the audience were skeptical. “They didn’t believe me.”

At the end of the presentation, he says many delegates asked him to autograph copies of the map showing a dismembered U.S.

He based the forecast on classified data supplied to him by FAPSI analysts, he says. He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S. When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union. Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow. The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.

California will form the nucleus of what he calls “The Californian Republic,” and will be part of China or under Chinese influence. Texas will be the heart of “The Texas Republic,” a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence. Washington, D.C., and New York will be part of an “Atlantic America” that may join the European Union. Canada will grab a group of Northern states Prof. Panarin calls “The Central North American Republic.” Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia.

8 thoughts on “Could America Break Apart?

  1. Honestly, I can’t see that happening. People run around like this is the worst crisis we’ve ever faced. The only reason they think that is because they don’t have a baseline. The Great Depression was worse, much worse, and the country still held together. I really don’t see California going to China, nor Texas to Mexico. If anything, Texas will become it’s own sovereign republic, as it was before it’s annexation into the US. It is the only state in the union that could completely sustain itself if it needed to.

    Mr. Panarin is displaying an extreme ignorance of the social, economic, and political forces in this country. If this country does split up, it won’t simply be a matter of each piece of the pie going to whichever power happens to be geographically closest.

    I’d say this guy is like another John Titor, except that whoever posted under that pseudonym was right on about a lot of aspects of our culture.


  2. I don’t see it happening, either, but…

    As for your idea of what is bad, you have not seen near the worst yet, Brian. Besides, the baselines we do have are easy enough to equate to to realize that we have never been in this much debt, even in the first Depression.

    Mark my words, this is just beginning and it will lead to war (which still won’t economically save us). We aren’t at war right now. Real war will be against Russia, China and Iran.

    To the neo(con)liberal mindset, that is the only way. Obama is most definitely neoliberal (to an extent worse than Bush was neocon).

    The worst is yet to come.

    I wouldn’t worry about the prediction of this man or the details contained within. In some ways, that outcome is actually better than what could happen (we get wiped off the face of the earth… which will be the end of the earth).

    We need to remove these zionistic assholes from power and present our people to the world in the way we truly are (loving and caring). For I am NOTHING like these maniacs running this country. We have allowed them to hijack this great country, bring it to the brink of destruction and taint what our good parents and grandparents did to bring the respect and love to us in the first place.

    These assholes have squandered everything for us and we should be doing something about it.


  3. Professor Panarin needs to visit. He needs to see for himself why the idea of South Carolina’s people wanting to join the EU as soon as 2010 is absurd, even if it were proven to be a good idea for them.


    • The Texas Republic is NOT the Texas “Republic”. It is but a state among other states. Nothing special. With the exception that it is filled with sycophantic idiots who can’t understand the difference between Socialism and Fascism (fighting against something like Socialism when Fascism has hijacked this country and the Party that most Texans endorse and support).


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