Kenneth Freeman: Chattanooga’s Defender Against 71 Year Old Wal-Mart Terrorists

Terri Shockley commented about this detective (I hope a soon-to-be pencil pusher) early on in a pseudo-defensive manner, since he is related by marriage and had never seen this type of behavior from him before. It takes a good deal of tact and intellectual reality to admit what she did… Well, 1 saw the v1deo,and 1 am very d1sappo1nted. 1 wouldn’t have bel1eved 1t 1f 1 hadn’t seen 1t.1 feel sorry for Mr. Walker, as well as Kenneth’s fam1ly,who 1′m sure are d1sappo1nted,shocked,and embarassed.

(She is missing the “i” on her keyboard, so don’t ask)

;-)

First of all, I understand the defense of the man. There were several questions unanswered. Terri felt that the non-issuance /release of the video meant that Freeman was being falsely accused. My stance was basically the opposite… that he was being protected from a full scrutiny of his actions.

So, my intent was not to immediately accuse him, but ask the question (in so many words), “Are Policemen too puffed up and dangerous due to ego and the fact that they carry so much power and clout in their world”? Power, no matter how much, can taint a person and cause them to do things they normally would not, especially in a family setting.

I have known a lot of cops in my day and most are legitimate, honest people. At least in the beginning. But I have also seen men change into monsters because of the power trip.

I felt that there had to be much more to this story than a rogue 71 year old “cowboy” greeter trying to play some race card or abusing his own Wal-Mart Greeter Power trip (if there is such a thing).

Terri showed true moxie and honesty by coming back to share with me her opinion, then giving me the link to the video that you can see below. Tell me what you think? And ask yourself why it took so long for this to be investigated without the normal Chattanooga cover up from government officials and their bogus judicial system? Why did it take so long to hold this man accountable for his abuse (the entire incident report is found here)? From his own mouth, the man was ready for real trouble (the entire interview with him is combative and he never, once, believes he has done anything wrong:

“Officer Kenneth Freeman stated that “you know, you know, I’m going to tell you what, the only saving grace the good thing about it is that Mac was there because if he’s not there and all these other clowns jump in now what, we got a real problem.”

I can only imagine that he means that he would pull out his “hidden” weapon and start blasting anyone who dare question his actions and/or motives. Yes, thank God I had another cop there to stop my rampage from the assault of the Zombie Wal-Mart Employees (what a tool). I also wonder if everyone he meets is a clown or just people at Wal-Mart. I think that it is evident who the “clown” is in this scenario.

From that report, I note that first and foremost, Freeman is defensive and argumentative. He has his facts all wrong (intentional or not) and he lies with abandon. Even the guy that was with him negates much of his story. Then, there are the witnesses who were interviewed:

I told Ms. Parker who I was and why I was calling. I also told her that the interview was being recorded. I asked Ms. Parker to tell me what she witnessed and she advised that she did not hear the security sensor sound, but she did hear Mr. Walker saying “Sir, Sir” to Officer Kenneth Freeman trying to get him to stop. She advised that she saw Mr. Walker touch, not grab, Officer Kenneth Freeman on the elbow trying to get his attention. Ms. Parker described Officer Kenneth Freeman’s reaction as “ballistic” and advised that he started saying, “How dare you touch me, you keep your hands off me.” She advised that Officer Kenneth Freeman kept yelling, “You’re not supposed to touch me.”

Ms. Parker advised that she did not see Officer Kenneth Freeman push Mr. Walker, but she saw Officer Kenneth Freeman standing over him yelling, “You’re not supposed to touch me.” She advised that a man in a green shirt that she nicknamed “The rescue guy” (Mr. Ghassedi) came in and grabbed Officer Kenneth Freeman while he was standing over Mr. Walker. Ms. Parker advised that they went outside the exit doors and was yelling at each other. She advised that Mr. Ghassedi was telling Officer Kenneth Freeman, “How could you do that to an old man, you should be ashamed of yourself, How could you do that to an old man!”

Ms. Parker advised that Lt. Edwin McPherson was trying to keep the peace. She advised that the Salvation Army bell ringer ran and got help from inside the store. Ms. Parker advised about 10 (ten) people came outside to help. She advised that Officer Kenneth Freeman and Mr. Ghassedi were “mouthing” back and forth. Ms. Parker advised that Officer Kenneth Freeman was trying to leave and that Wal-Mart managers told him that he could not leave because the police were on their way. She advised that Officer Kenneth Freeman said, “Who is going to stop me, you? I don’t think so!” Ms. Parker advised that she did not know Officer Kenneth Freeman was a police officer until after everything was over.

more about “Kenneth Freeman“, posted with vodpod

So here we go: I am a man who also hates abuse of anyone, especially the old and young. My mama taught me to respect my elders and to conduct myself in a manner fitting of her instruction to always honor and help older people. To me, this  Mr. Ghassedi guy is a hero and did exactly what I would have done (and may have been shot and killed over). But therein lies the problem. Mr Freeman was not in Blues. He was in plain clothes. There were no identifying badges and apparently his gun was obstructed from view. I would have cold cocked that fucker for pushing the old man down. I would have gotten my ass whipped and likely shot, but by God, I cannot stand for such shit right before my eyes.

Mr Freeman obviously NEVER identified himself as a cop. No one knew it until long after the incident. All the “You should not touch me” bullshit is meaningless when one cannot be identified as a cop. I wasn’t there and didn’t witness this in action, but the video tells all and I appreciate Terri sharing it with me.

Yes, there is another poster who has some axe to grind over civil liberties and somehow believes that Wal-Mart has no right to ask someone if they stole some shit when the alarms go off. But this isn’t about abusing Mr Freeman’s civil liberties. This is about doing what is right and honorable and acting like a civil human being, instead of a egotistical monster.

Now, to be perfectly honest at this point, I wonder out loud if the bastard actually stole the shit that set off the alarm. He has a long history of offenses towards people (and notice how most go unheeded or go misaddressed). Also, in my opinion, 28 days suspension is not enough. Retraining is not enough (especially after you see his history). This man needs another job where he is not in allowed to carry such an ego (or weapon).

History of Officer Freeman

Posted: Jan 28, 2009 12:03 PM

Updated: Jan 28, 2009 12:03 PM

Chattanooga Police Department

Internal Affairs Div.

Officer Resume

Officer Ralph K. Freeman [801/41789]

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Part I – Personal Information

__________________________________________________________________________________________

Name:  Officer Ralph K. Freeman

Employee #: 41789   Badge No: 801   Hire Dt: 10/14/1994

Department:  Administrative Services

Division:  Administrative Operation

Sector:

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Part II – Incidents

__________________________________________________________________________________________

Citizen complaint  IA #: 1997-14   Case #:

Received date: Mar 11, 1997         Occurred date:  Mar 10, 1997

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Improper Conduct – Unfounded May 29, 1997

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 1997-71   Case #:

Received date: Dec 30, 1997         Occurred date:  Dec 20, 1997

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Use of Force/Mere Touching – Unfounded Feb 3, 1998

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 1998-58   Case #:

Received date: Mar 20, 1998         Occurred date:  Mar 18, 1998

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Use of Force/Injury – Exonerated May 27, 1998

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 1998-125   Case #:

Received date: Jul 21, 1998           Occurred date:  Jul 3, 1998

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Use of Force/Mere Touching – Withdrawn Aug 6, 1998

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Administrative investigation  IA #: 1998-128   Case #:

Received date: Jul 27, 1998           Occurred date:  Jul 27, 1998

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Improper Conduct (Insubordination) – Sustained Nov 9, 1998

Policy Violation – Sustained Nov 9, 1998

Disciplinary action(s)

Suspension Nov 4, 1998   Days/hrs suspended: 3

Citizen complaint  IA #: 1998-131   Case #:

Received date: Jul 29, 1998           Occurred date:

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Improper Conduct – Unfounded Oct 8, 1998

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 1999-18   Case #:

Received date: Jan 29, 1999         Occurred date:  Nov 5, 1999

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Harassment – Unfounded Feb 26, 1999

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Administrative investigation  IA #: 1999-170   Case #:

Received date: Nov 21, 1999         Occurred date:  Nov 21, 1999

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Shooting/Non-Contact – Exonerated Mar 4, 2000

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2001-17   Case #:

Received date: Feb 14, 2001         Occurred date:  Feb 13, 2001

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Discourtesy – Unfounded Mar 15, 2001

Improper Arrest – Unfounded Mar 15, 2001

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2001-35   Case #: 01-26448

Received date: Mar 8, 2001           Occurred date:  Feb 23, 2001

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Fact Finding – Withdrawn Mar 26, 2001

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2001-41   Case #:

Received date: Mar 27, 2001         Occurred date:  Feb 26, 2001

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Excessive Use of Force – Unfounded Oct 17, 2001

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Vehicle accident  IA #: TA01-71189   Case #: 01-071189

Received date: May 24, 2001        Occurred date:

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Traffic Accident – Non-Preventable Jun 20, 2001

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2001-111   Case #:

Received date: Aug 28, 2001         Occurred date:  Aug 25, 2001

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Discourtesy – Not Sustained Nov 7, 2001

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2001-126   Case #:

Received date: Oct 1, 2001           Occurred date:  Sep 2, 2001

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Discourtesy – Not Sustained Nov 6, 2001

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2002-101   Case #:

Received date: Aug 6, 2002           Occurred date:  Aug 1, 2002

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Improper Procedure – Sustained Apr 17, 2003

Disciplinary action(s)

Written Reprimand Apr 17, 2003   Days/hrs suspended:

Citizen complaint  IA #: PPI 2003-65   Case #:

Received date: Jul 11, 2003           Occurred date:  Jul 10, 2003

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Improper Procedure – Exonerated Sep 24, 2003

Improper Procedure – Exonerated Sep 24, 2003

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Vehicle accident  IA #: TA-121210   Case #: 03-121210

Received date: Oct 29, 2003         Occurred date:  Sep 10, 2003

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Traffic Accident – Non-Preventable Oct 29, 2003

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: PPI 2004-6   Case #:

Received date: Mar 9, 2004           Occurred date:  Oct 26, 2003

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Rudeness – Exonerated May 21, 2004

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: PPI 2004-40   Case #:

Received date: Jun 18, 2004         Occurred date:  Jun 17, 2004

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Rudeness – Unfounded Oct 8, 2004

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2005-13   Case #:

Received date: Feb 24, 2005         Occurred date:

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Use of Force/Injury – Not Sustained Jun 30, 2005

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Vehicle accident  IA #: TA-29241   Case #:

Received date: Jun 13, 2005         Occurred date:  Mar 20, 2005

Classification:

Allegation(s):

<None>

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Vehicle accident  IA #: TA-32966   Case #:

Received date: Apr 1, 2006           Occurred date:  Apr 1, 2006

Classification:

Allegation(s):

<None>

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2006-16   Case #:

Received date: Apr 20, 2006         Occurred date:  Apr 16, 2006

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Use of Force/Injury – Not Sustained Sep 28, 2006

Rudeness – Not Sustained Sep 28, 2006

Failure to File Use of Force Report – Sustained Sep 28, 2006

Disciplinary action(s)

Written Reprimand Sep 28, 2006   Days/hrs suspended:

Citizen complaint  IA #: PPI 2006-57   Case #:

Received date: Jun 27, 2006         Occurred date:  Jun 11, 2006

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Rudeness – Not Sustained Jan 17, 2007

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Vehicle accident  IA #: TA-100576   Case #:

Received date: Sep 25, 2006         Occurred date:  Sep 25, 2006

Classification:

Allegation(s):

<None>

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: PPI 2006-96   Case #:

Received date: Dec 11, 2006         Occurred date:  Dec 1, 2006

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Neglect of Duty < Open allegation >

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Administrative investigation  IA #: 2007-25   Case #:

Received date: May 9, 2007          Occurred date:  May 9, 2007

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Fact Finding – No Action Taken May 27, 2008

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Citizen complaint  IA #: PPI 2007-47   Case #:

Received date: Nov 6, 2007           Occurred date:  Oct 16, 2007

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Rudeness – Not Sustained Jan 8, 2008

Disciplinary action(s)

Training Jan 8, 2008   Days/hrs suspended:

Citizen complaint  IA #: 2007-74   Case #:

Received date: Dec 5, 2007           Occurred date:  Dec 1, 2007

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Use of Force/No Injury – Unfounded May 27, 2008

Rudeness – Unfounded May 27, 2008

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Administrative investigation  IA #: 2008-12   Case #:

Received date: Mar 27, 2008         Occurred date:  Mar 27, 2008

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Fact Finding – No Violation May 27, 2008

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Administrative investigation  IA #: 2008-32   Case #:

Received date: Sep 8, 2008           Occurred date:  Aug 23, 2008

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Insubordination – Unfounded Nov 23, 2008

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Administrative investigation  IA #: 2008-50   Case #:

Received date: Dec 26, 2008         Occurred date:  Dec 24, 2008

Classification:

Allegation(s):

Fact Finding < Open allegation >

Disciplinary action(s)

<None>

Printed: Dec 26, 2008 09:23   By: Civilian Amy Williams

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20 thoughts on “Kenneth Freeman: Chattanooga’s Defender Against 71 Year Old Wal-Mart Terrorists

  1. why was the greeter even grabbing someone? he is not the police or security. if he had grabbed anyone from the side/behind, they would have reacted, also. period! you can’t just take it upon yourself to take matters into your own hands. if you look at hours of video tape, you will probably see the greeter stop mainly african-american shoppers. i bet he won’t grab another shopper like that. it is easy for people to say just fire someone. they too have families to take care of and bills like anyone else.

  2. Depends on your idea of what “grabbing someone” means.

    Did you read any of the links where his partner explained that the greeter stopped them both, one stopped and let the greeter check the receipt, Mr Freeman ignored him and kept going (much like a thief might do to avoid conflict and arrest… or an egotistical cop might do because he is above common courtesy and decorum)?

    Did you look at hours of video tape or are you talking out your ass?

    Watch THIS video tape and comment saying what Mr Freeman did was not over the top? That standing over the guy then shoving the next man through a window isn’t a bit “rough”?

    I am now assuming you are his wife.

    I’m sorry.

    But your husband needs more than a little reprimand. He needs psychological help and should not be allowed to carry a gun. He is too abusive and cannot contain himself. A maniac ready to lose it.

    He certainly should not be paid by tax money, if THIS is the way he treats the citizens who PAY his damn salary.

    Sorry, Mrs Freeman. Go to work and get your husband some help.

    I’m sure the UFC would take him in.

  3. No one said and it cannot be seen that the victim “grabbed” any one. At best it can only be seen that the victim touched the criminal’s arm to get his attention. This cop is a very bad person and should be in prison. When you have 32 complaints and now 33 it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out this guy is a very bad cop and so is his Chief for looking the other way and allowing him to remainon the department (who also happens to be black). Both of these cops are crooked as hell and should be fired. Is it any wonder people do not respect the police?

  4. Buelah,

    Caught your offhand reference to my previous posts, and I just want to clarify a couple things. First, receipt checks/bag searches have nothing to do with civil liberties. The Fourth Amendment protects citizens from unreasonable searches by the government and its agents, not other private citizens. State shoplifting laws give merchants permission to detain a shopper only with probable cause or reasonable suspicion (depending on your state) to believe the customer’s stolen. Both are fairly high legal standards and require more than setting off a second-rate squawk-box that chirps for every fourth or fifth customer.

    I also never said Wal-Mart has no right to ask to check our receipts and bags. They have every right to ask, but no right to require. In order to be legal, all such searches must be voluntary, and shoppers who don’t feel like having their property pawed through can politely refuse and leave the store. It’s the decision of every individual whether or not to allow the inspection. If you believe it’s “right and honorable” to prove that you paid, you’ll decide to take part. As for me, I think it’s poor customer service to treat honest shoppers like criminal suspects, so I won’t reward the practice with my participation.

    Despite your rather sharp and pronounced criticism of my earlier comments, I’d like to point out that you and I are more in agreement than not. Like you, I believe the detective’s conduct is inexcusable, a severe overreaction to a slight gaffe on the greeter’s part. Even if the employee had stood in front of the exit or more overtly tried to prevent him from leaving the store, an officer of the law should not have used force against a senior citizen.

  5. You don’t know that it is a “second-rate squawk-box”, nor how many times it buzzes.

    “Probable cause” would surely be an alarm going off. Another would be the way Freeman responded (by ignoring the guy and walking away). That, in and of itself is suspicious.

    Which is my point. There is obviously plenty of suspicious behavior and reason to stop the man. So why would you continue the argument?

  6. I was unable to find any statistical data showing what percentage of electronic article surveillance alarms resulting from shoplifters versus the percentage from other activations, but anecdotally, I believe it’s pretty well established that store security alarms are notoriously unreliable. They are not magic theft detectors. Magnetic tags on credit cards and key cards have been known to set them off, and most alarms from active sensors are likely the result of cashier error. EAS systems are about as common – and helpful – as the nuisance car alarms that shriek day in and day out.

    While I’ve found nothing to suggest that an alarm can qualify as PC, there are four states that consider them grounds for reasonable suspicion (the less stringent of the two) and allow stores to detain on an alarm activation alone. Tennessee is not one of those states. Ignoring the greeter and walking away may strike you as suspicious, but neither merchants nor police can use refusal to participate in a voluntary search as probable cause to detain.

    This will be my last post on the matter (unless you make direct inquiries that I’m invited to answer) because you did imply on the previous occasion that my comments are unwelcome here. I have no desire to continue an argument with you, but I did feel compelled to correct your summary of what I’d said earlier. Thank you for your understanding.

  7. There may be an under-lying issue here that I would like to get you guys’ take on. Have you asked yourself why, specifically, Freeman didn’t get fired? After pulling a stunt like this, causing a media frenzy and bringing national discredit to his department, the officer wasn’t terminated? I know why.

    What do you think would have happened to a white officer who pushed down a black 71 year old man at Wal-Mart? He’d be in jail right now, that’s what. And he damn sure would have been terminated immediately from employment as an officer.

    There is an underlying issue infecting the ranks of police departments world-wide. Its reverse discrimination. White officers are held to a higher standard than black officers. The testing and recruitment is lowered for black officers, the promotion standards are lowered, and the disciplinary actions are less strict.

    I know of a black officer who has been a total of 15 hours late in a year period to report for work, has been caught and video-taped sleeping on duty, and falls asleep in his patrol car while backing up other officers. You know what happened to him for all this (after a year of the incidents constantly being reported to the Chief)? He was given 3 days off with pay. And the behavior still continued.

    I know of another black officer who was off duty at a club on MLK, intoxicated, directing traffic out in the middle of the street, almost causing a wreck. An internal affairs case was opened but was dropped solely on the basis that she was a minority officer.

    Furthermore, I know of white officers who have been suspended and even terminated for lesser acts of policy violations or even unproven allegations of policy violations.

    That is the real issue here. CPD probably feels that it can settle out of court with Bill Walker more easily than it can with Kenneth Freeman. What I mean by that is, if they would have fired Freeman, he probably would have came back and said that the Wal-Mart greeter only stopped him because he was black, and that the CPD, by taking Walker’s side, would be discriminating against Freeman somehow. CPD feels more fear about the NAACP, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (the Emperors of Black People) on their back than Bill Walker, who would probably only want enough money to buy a huge yacht and fishing boat and chill for the rest of his life.

    And yes, I used to be a police officer. Not for Chattanooga PD, though. I’m no longer an officer. One of the main reasons I got out was due to the politics, unfair treatment/double standards and the catering of the minority ranks. Call me what you will, but I was NEVER like any of these asshole officers you hear about on the news. I treated everyone I could with respect (granted, sometimes, for certain people, the only language they understand is being cussed at and told to shut up) and I never abused anyone. Too many people get into Law Enforcement thinking they can go out there and be the guy from The Shield, instead of trying to have respect and integrity like the Mountie from that show Due South (I loved that show). I honestly feel nowadays, that I was too good of a person to join the police. There is no room for good guys anymore. Only scumbags. And the few good ones there are eventually somehow get screwed.

  8. What do you think would have happened to a white officer who pushed down a black 71 year old man at Wal-Mart? He’d be in jail right now, that’s what. And he damn sure would have been terminated immediately from employment as an officer.

    Pure racist speculation, imo. And if true, it must be on a per precinct basis.

    From my personal experience, white cops are far more egomaniacs than black cops. I never had a black cop whip me in the head with a nightstick because I asked him for my cigarettes. I never had a black cop threaten my life when he pulled out in front of me, undercover, no lights and almost made me crash. When I shot him the bird, he and his partner got out, pulled up their weapons and threatened to shoot me on the spot. I never had a black cop take me to jail for drinking a carton of milk and eating a honeybun, claiming public drunkeness.

    I’m from a small town and the fact of the matter is that the black cops I have known and dealt with are far more cordial and professional than the white cops.

    Do some black cops do this shit? Apparently so. But, my personal experience squashes what appears to be a racist diatribe.

    I tend to think that cops protect themselves and this judge would have protected a white cop in the same manner.

    Thanks for stopping by, but I consider your claim dubious.

  9. first of all, i’m not his wife and i’m not excusing the over-reacting of freeman. i’ve seen several cops get suspended with pay over the past few months for awful things. they were all white. what’s up with that. this old man isn’t scared at all. he’s been on tv and had a lot to say about several cops dating back to 2004. his lawyers are trying to get him paid so he can retire. it’s all about the money. the old man is racist. think about it. black people are always trying to take down his fellow brotha

  10. Michelle,

    The “wife” thing was tongue-in-cheek.

    If you have some video or a link, that would be cool, but even if what you say is true, that the old man (I guess you mean the “cowboy” who was shoved down by Freeman) is a racist, what does that have to do with anything? It does not justify a cop shoving an old man down, then another through a glass window… especially since he never identified himself in any way or form. It is evident that a cop over stepped his bounds and I wouldn’t care if the old man is a racist, he did nothing to deserve what happened.

    And my point to Someguy should suggest that I don’t believe racism has anything to do with any of this.

    black people are always trying to take down his fellow brotha

    Do you think I am black?

  11. no i know you are not black. that was a bad joke. if you look at recent news. a lot of white cops are suspended with pay. i really don’t think it has to do with race, it’s probably just a favoritism thing. it’s all about who you know. again, i do think the officer over reacted, but if someone came up and touched or grabbed you, you would respond some kind of way. whether it be loud and verbal or just jerk your arm away. the old man still should not have touched anyone. he will probably get sued, too. he touched first!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he admitted that.

  12. Michelle,

    You are being disingenuous. The man worked at Wal-Mart and his responsibility was to check people leaving the premises that had set off an alarm. I have been stopped on more than one occasion and other than perhaps a slight nuisance, it sure as hell did not deserve pushing a 71 year old man down… stand over him in an extremely aggressive and intimidating fashion, then push another standby’er THRU a glass door and you are going to continue to insist Freeman was within his right or even a modicum of decent human behavior. AND that the man who was doing a job (after repeated attempts to get Freeman’s attention verbally did finally touch his arm) was the culprit.

    Sorry.

    This is tiring and I call bullshit.

    You know damn well Freeman is damned wrong here. AND you know that the old “cowboy” was doing his job BECAUSE Freeman wouldn’t stop to begin with.

    I now am really starting to believe that Freeman also stole some shit.

    How’s that?

    It makes more sense than your continued protectionism of your inlaw in light of all the evidence. They call people like Freeman “goons”. Egotistically brawny, likely a steroid head, bulked up and out of his mind over himself. All brawn, no brain and he stepped over the line COUNTLESS times (google his record). You need to face reality and protect your loved ones from that maniac and the police force needs to fire his ass, pay millions to the Wal-mart guy (and the other dude) and Freeman can find a broom to push.

    I’d say the same thing no matter what color he was.

  13. I wasn’t debating whether or not black cops are worse than white cops. I was only arguing that skin color within police departments influence the outcome of punishment, among other things.

    Freeman was completely wrong in this incident. No argument there. He would have been wrong whether or not he was a cop, whether or not he was black, white, arab or a martian.

    So B-Man, we know you’d say the same thing no matter what color he was. All I’m saying is, if Freeman was white, you wouldn’t have had to say anything, because he’d have already been fired by this point, and in jail. This blog wouldn’t even exist.

    You say my claim is dubious, yet, you’ve never seen what goes on behind the scenes. There is currently a local police department with two pending lawsuits for reverse discrimination and threats for a 3rd. Police and Fire Departments around the country are being subjected to reverse discrimination lawsuits and the plaintiffs are winning. I am an insider and I’m telling you it goes on. And it is my belief that if it were a white officer right now, even with a solid gold service record, it would have been termination and jail time.

  14. SomeGuy:

    You say my claim is dubious, yet, you’ve never seen what goes on behind the scenes. There is currently a local police department with two pending lawsuits for reverse discrimination and threats for a 3rd. Police and Fire Departments around the country are being subjected to reverse discrimination lawsuits and the plaintiffs are winning. I am an insider and I’m telling you it goes on. And it is my belief that if it were a white officer right now, even with a solid gold service record, it would have been termination and jail time.

    What you say may be true. Except for all the cases recently in the news that prove it is not. You can’t turn on the TV without seeing cops of all stripes beating the fuck out of people and going overboard and nothing seems to happen.

    I would say that it is rampant all over, no matter the color, that cops get preferred treatment in their outbursts and abuses instead of proper retribution and help finding a job more suitable for their egos (like wrestling).

  15. It’s OBVIOUS by now that this man has a serious anger problem. If he isn’t stopped and sent home now we are going to see another mother on the news crying because this trigger happy so called cop shot her son/daughter. Look at this man’s record. If ANY AVERAGE CITIZEN had a record that looked like that they wouldn’t even be able to get a job, nope not even as a WalMart Greeter. This man certainly needs to be FIRED NOW!

  16. You know, I sugar coated my response and shouldn’t have. I am not a racist person, but the fact that he was a BLACK POLICE OFFICER, lordy lordy we don’t want no black police officer causing a ruckus round here. Had he been a white guy they would have put him under the jail. I am so damn tired of this reverse discrimination I can’t stand it. Did you know the White Male is actually the most discriminated of all. We struggle to do good on test for jobs, but we get overlooked because of affirmitive action. Yep, we need to stop worrying about what color the work pool looks like and just make sure it is staffed with WELL QUALIFIED people. And not people who receive a 5% increase in their test scores just because they are black! Yes, this is happening out there NOW!

    • Hi Mark,

      Thanks for your comments. I agree that he should be fired. Whether or not there is reverse discrimination, I am not sure. Maybe, maybe not.

      Did you know the White Male is actually the most discriminated of all.

      I am suspect of something like this, tho, because I live in the Deep South and it simply is not true here and in my experience.

      we need to stop worrying about what color the work pool looks like and just make sure it is staffed with WELL QUALIFIED people.

      Here, we are in 100% agreement. That would go for the Senate, too, huh?

  17. I am absolutely appalled at the number of complaints that were filed against this police officer. Why is he still on the force? In any other line of work, a person with that many problems would be fired by now. We really need to come up with another method of “policing the police”. They need to be held accountable for their actions like everyone else or this abuse will continue.

  18. I’m not excusing the actions of the cop, as it’s pretty clear he overreacted. But the fact is that store exit receipt checks are supposed to be strictly voluntary. Store employees are NOT allowed to physically touch, block, or detain you unless they positively witness you taking merchandise out the door without paying for it (though some states also allow merchants to arrest you for concealing items). Anything you say or do to make a reasonable person feel that he is not 100% free to leave, could constitute False Imprisonment. I used to be a security manager and was in charge of training and hiring guards, and it does seem to me that some of those Walmart greeters might not be properly informed of the law.

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