(Not So) Great Expectations

During my travels the last two days, I had a wonderful opportunity to spend time with some old friends. We went to Hooters, ate wings, drank beers and talked shit. But, eventually, the conversation turned to serious things. Since one guy is from New Orleans originally and his dad retired from Exxon, he had a few things to say about this mess that is devastating his home state. He does have some insight and explained that he is extremely worried that this well is blown out so bad that it will never be sealed. Relief wells will never stop this, because the damage to the well is so bad.

Like me, he thinks of all the things that could go wrong. The main problem will be the health effects of the crap that aerosols and gets in to the air for the locals to breathe. If you follow the three videos below that WSWS produced (Greg from the Goon Squad recommended one and I believe all three should be viewed to get an idea about what to expect on various fronts):

In this first part in a series of videos on the Gulf Coast oil spill, the WSWS interviews Dean Blanchard, the owner of a shrimp processing and distribution company located in Grand Isle, Louisiana. Like many others, his business has been ruined by the oil spill that has contaminated the Gulf of Mexico and largely destroyed shrimping and fishing in the region.

Part 2—The effect on human health
By C.W. Rogers and Andre Damon
30 June 2010

This video, the second in a series, explores the health consequences of the BP oil spill. It features interviews with Nathalie Walker, an attorney and co-director of Advocates for Environmental Human Rights, as well as environmental chemist Wilma Subra.

This video, part three of a series, explores the social consequences of the BP oil spill. The disaster has destroyed the livelihoods of tens of thousands of fishermen and small business people, and experts say it may uproot whole communities and trigger mass migrations.

from the World Socialist Website

Yes, this oil blowout is fouling water, land and air. And no matter how emotional you get about the cleanup (like my little sister, who, with the world’s biggest heart, is outraged and wants to go help clean up). But like I told her son, who wanted to go clean up, too (they lived at Pensacola for a few years and love the place), this shit may not only make you ill, but it could very well KILL YOU. People, please wake up to how bad this shit is and will be.

Do not fall for the Floridian leadership pleas lies telling you that the water and beaches are ok. Those assholes are thinking about money, not you or your health.

I visited another old friend who is a big wheel at a major automobile manufacturer and he told me about his family’s plans to go to Panama City, Florida in the next couple of months and I felt a wave of nausea as I thought about his beautiful children going to the beach, breathing that air and getting flu-like symptoms. Or, even if the least is getting burned by the Corexit and tar balls:

Don’t Scare the Tourists

One of the concerns is that the local officials want to downplay the hazards from the oil spill to avoid alarming tourists and driving even more people away from the beaches.

“The official story,” said Mogavero, “is that the water is clear, and there are a few tar balls but it is safe to swim in and I feel that is in direct opposition to the reality of the situation…

“When you’ve got this detergent, this dispersant in the water – coming in – I have first-hand experience with burn marks on my skin with these tar balls that these children are playing in that potentially could cause their death.”

The long-time Floridian is also shocked to see people swimming so close to where clean-up boats, with workers in hazmat suits, were cleaning up the toxic sludge.

“It is probably a couple hundred yards across, right smack in the middle of Destin Harbor,” he said. “And there are two boats dragging a boom, obviously skimming the surface oil within 20 yards of where there were people on the beach, entering the water, and going swimming.”

The next day, Lepori went to investigate reports of another school of sick dolphins. As soon as she got to the water’s edge, she became dizzy and nauseous, similar to her experience out on the Gulf off Alabama.

“Within minutes of getting on the beach with families swimming in the water and it was maybe because I was so exposed to all these chemicals, I was sick,” she said. “I had a headache, I couldn’t breathe, again, I was dizzy and I ended up having to leave the beach.

“And again, there were families. I walked along the beach telling the families along the beach, did you know this water’s poisonous that you’re putting these children in? …There were no signs, no one telling anyone anything about the toxicity of the water. And you know sometimes I don’t even have words. And none of those people knew.”

h/t Common Dreams

I saw this interesting video on Facebook this morning from a friend who lives in Florida. Apparently, the stuff is being picked up and dumped inland by rain (this home is 10 miles from the coast, in Tampa):

The same friend posted this video, produced by a couple who lives and work in New Orleans. In it, they show that the brand new, gleaming white roof of the Super Dome is turning black and oily from the rains that are picking the shit up and dumping inland. According to these two, this roof was solid white just a week or two ago.

Supposedly, BP is getting real close to having the relief wells completed. But, as history shows, this usually doesn’t work correctly the first time. It can take many stabs before actually hitting the mark.

One relief well is now within about 20 feet [1] of BP’s ruptured well in the Gulf, but historically these fixes haven’t always worked on the first try–even on blowouts in far shallower waters.

The Ixtoc well in the Gulf of Mexico was only 150 feet below the surface, and it took nine months [2], two relief wells, and several tries before a relief well finally stopped that spill. That was in 1979.

And the Montara well, off the coast of Australia, was in 250 feet of water [3] and flowed for 10  weeks last fall. A relief well took five attempts [4]. At one point engineers even lost control of the relief well, causing a fire that destroyed the original rig [5], according to The Times-Picayune of New Orleans.

BP’s well in the Gulf, by comparison, is 20 times deeper than the Montara well and more than 30 times deeper than the Ixtoc well. Two relief wells are being drilled–one as a backup.

Initial failure is “almost a certainty [6],” David Rensink, president of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, told Bloomberg. “It would be like winning the lottery to get it on the first shot.”

H/t to Marian Wang at ProPublica

Should we expect them to cap this thing? Or, should our expectations change as we begin to clearly see the damage being done and the feet being dragged. When will it become acceptable to SUSPECT these people of criminality?

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12 thoughts on “(Not So) Great Expectations

      • It happened by BP ignoring all the warnings they got from everybody involved in this pile of shit. Wrong BOPs and not waiting for a higher PSI BOP. (Blow out preventer). They were using around a 10,000 psi BOP and could have waited on two 15,000 BOPs. But they didn’t! Also they didn’t secure they well head correctly with the cement. This is not a deep water drill. It is a mega deep water drill. Drilling that deep has only been done by the Russians and the Iran oil complex. These two countries had problems drilling this deep on almost every occasion. Russia has used nukes to seal off four different runaway wells. Iran has learned other ways to solve it and has offered help and the powers at be have denied it.

        They have tapped into a batholith, which is in the mantle of the earth and the pressure and gasses coming out of that are enormous. 70,000 psi are the estimates that this gusher is spewing. We don’t have technology to stop such pressure, without using nukes! The relief wells have a snowballs chance in hell. They may hit the 7″ well head pipe but if it collapses then what? You have to back out to a certain degree and try again. It could take many tries to hit this pipe and then they have to be able to start filling the well head with mud and sediment and eventually concrete. This takes time. A relief well has never even attempted to stop a 70,000+ PSI well gusher. Only a nuke charge has done so.

        if these fissures are popping up away from the well head the only logic is that the well head is compromised. Then it can’t be stopped until the well runs dry. If it is a batholith they are tapped into, then it will never stop until there is no more earth. Get that NEVER run dry.

  1. Most of those people in the gulf states are god fearing republicans therefore they don’t matter.

  2. Ease, ease. It’s sarcasm guy. I got it from some innernett pages that are saying The One® doesn’t care about the gulf states because it is almost all republicans. Everyone knows republicans are evil pagans that sacrifice kittens to Moloch.

    • What? No smiley faces or LOL’s? Or a link to the “joke”?

      I live in a Gulf state and am the farthest thing from a god fearing republican. And as was noted, this isn’t the funniest of matters.

  3. That point should have been clairified before the submit comment button was hit.

    Don’t you know those southern rednecks are sensitive? Especially at a time like this. and this advisery comes to you from Illinoisssssssaa!
    A blue state. Go figure.

  4. There is no… nor will there be a full measure as to the impact yesterday, today and all the tomorrows that this continuing castastrophe is having on 100% of all things connected with enviornemnt, economics, and human ecology and health. Insanity… just plain insanity. The scarier part past this is that every other oil company drilling doesn’t have any plans either… nor safety measures or anything. They are all ticking time bombs. It our country can come up with billions for haiti… we sure as hell can come up with the people on the coast. Let’s all adopt a family!!!!

  5. Things I want to know….
    Why didn’t the government return calls from foreign country’s who offered help…..
    What happened to the government workers who allowed BP oil accumulate 760 + violations, while the rest of the oil company’s had about 17 violations….
    Why weren’t these people fired…..
    Why did the Government issue a 6 month moratorium on all oil drilling when it was only one company that blew it…..
    The oil company’s won’t wait 6 months, they’ll just pack up there drilling wells and move to the Western Coast of Africa….
    There are more questions that I have, and I have some answers…..The POTUS does not want drilling, its not part of his program for energy efficiency ,but the POTUS still doesn’t have a solution…..
    IMHO, I feel there may have been a conspirancy in this well blowing up by the government to assist the POTUS in reaching his solution and using BP as a scapegoat…..
    I’ve found out that there’s also more to capping this well that meets the eye….I recently heard a report that they cannot cap the well because there are cracks in the seabed that will just create enough pressure to blow if they cap the well properly ….

    • Hi Steve (I see Lynda knows you… welcome)

      Why didn’t the government return calls from foreign country’s who offered help…..

      I speculate that they don’t want help… that this is contrived/purposeful.

      What happened to the government workers who allowed BP oil accumulate 760 + violations, while the rest of the oil company’s had about 17 violations….

      Rewarded for a job well done? Without them, this wouldn’t have been as easy to conduct.

      Why weren’t these people fired…..

      You don’t fire people for doing what you want them to do.

      Why did the Government issue a 6 month moratorium on all oil drilling when it was only one company that blew it…..

      To scare people and form their mindset about new taxes to be implemented on us (as a guess).

      The oil company’s won’t wait 6 months, they’ll just pack up there drilling wells and move to the Western Coast of Africa….

      LOL… those whores will go wherever they can make a buck and will build more wells. Are you kidding me?

      IMHO, I feel there may have been a conspirancy in this well blowing up by the government to assist the POTUS in reaching his solution and using BP as a scapegoat…..

      Hence why I named my one post something about Hara Kari. BP will suicide themselves (after Tony Hayward, Goldman Sachs and Haliburton make money), change their name after bankruptcy and you and I will pay for this mess. Sweet gig if you can get it. NOT

      I’ve found out that there’s also more to capping this well that meets the eye….I recently heard a report that they cannot cap the well because there are cracks in the seabed that will just create enough pressure to blow if they cap the well properly ….

      Read some of the latest posts on the subject here and get all the earful of BP gusher news you can use.

      Thanks for stopping in.

  6. Hey Steve… I am so glad you replied to this. Intro time…. Steve meet Bman, Bman meet Steve. Steve is the right to your left. lololololololololol

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