How Sound Is Holocaust Eyewitness Testimony?

As sound as Elie Wiesel’s imagination:

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NOTE: The text below was published on the Kent State University Kent Wire as a comment on the article  “Jewish Studies program educates students on Holocaust, prepares for Elie Wiesel visit”


Written by Bradley Smith, March 27, 2013

Elie Wiesel, the darling of Kent State academics and of the Professorial Class nationwide, is to be welcomed here on 08 April to speak. Would it be improper, meanwhile, for Kent State students to learn what Elie Wiesel has written, say, about Babi Yar?

Babi Yar is a ravine near Kiev in Ukraine. There, during the Holocaust years, the Germans executed Soviet citizens, some of whom were Jews, and buried them where they fell. Wiesel writes that there is “eyewitness” testimony that for months after the killings the earth trembled and “geysers of blood” spurted from the ground.

Okay. So there they are. They’re dead, they’re cold, they’re buried in dirt, but they retain a unique ability, as do so many eyewitnesses that Elie Wiesel promotes, to express themselves with a unique imagination. They organize down there in their airless, dark surroundings, and in order to speak to the world so we will “never forget,” they shudder until the earth itself trembles. And they spurt their blood up through the ground into the air again and again where “eyewitnesses” can view the bloody geysers for months on end (literally) and report it to whatever ninny will believe it and take it around the world until it ends up at Kent State University.

As I say, Elie Wiesel wrote that in Jews of Silence, a straight-forward book of journalism. If one Kent State academic were to initiate a discussion of this corrupt Babi-Yar romance, is it not possible that students on campus would find it informative? Perhaps interesting? That they might have a couple new questions to ask Professor Elie Wiesel when he shows up to lecture them?

Elie would probably prefer that no one mention Babi Yar. He can count on Kent State academics to remain silent. But I wonder, can he really count on Kent State students?

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So what is the truth about Babi Yar? Were Jews actually machine-gunned? How many? Tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands? It just so happens that aerial photographs taken by the Allies shows NONE. No mass burial graves. No signs of anything.


In 1991, wartime aerial photographs from the National Archives in Washington, DC were used as the ultimate guidance in exhumations of hundreds of Polish officers and intellectuals massacred in 1939-40 by the Soviet NKVD in the vicinity of Kharkiv. Aerial photos of Kiev’s distant suburbs, including Bykivnia, Bilhorodka and Darnista, revealed mass graves of victims of the 1930’s Stalinist terror-famine. It is therefore logical to assume that aerial photos of a ravine would reveal evidence of recent mass graves or of a major topographic disturbance.

The US National Archives in Washington contain about 1,100,000 wartime aerial photos, among them some 600 of Kiev, including Babi Yar. They were taken during 20 or more flights over the area. The first photos, taken at 12:23 pm on May 17, 1939, reveal such details as cars and even the shadows of the lamp posts on the streets of Kiev. Every large bush and small tree is visible on the slopes and at the bottom of the Babi Yar ravine. The last aerial photo coverage of Kiev (and Babi Yar) took place on June 18, 1944, about nine months after the city’s “liberation” by the Red Army.

This series of reconnaissance photos demonstrates that the flora and the ground cover of the ravine remained undisturbed throughout the two years of German occupation. When the early and late photos are compared, it is obvious that the scattered trees grew and became slightly larger. No evidence of human or large animal activity in the ravine can be discerned on the many aerial photos of Babi Yar taken repeatedly in different seasons of the years 1939-1944.

In November of 1943, a group of Western journalists, including New York Times correspondent William “Bill” Lawrence, himself Jewish, were invited to Kiev by the Soviets. This occurred two weeks after the city’s fall to the Red Army. The reporters were told that this was only six weeks after the Germans had completed the dynamiting, disinterment and open-air cremation of 70,000 corpses, followed by the crushing and bulldozing of the unburned bones into the soil of the ravine.

But the Western Journalists were hard pressed to find any convincing physical evidence at the site of the alleged massacre.


This also leads me to the big question regarding the Holocaust in general: why would Germans set up massive “death camps” if all they had to do was line up the people and gun them down? Why spend all that money and manpower “gassing” them? Why take away food from their own citizens to feed victims they were simply going to kill anyway? Why allow them to have canteens, playhouses, musicals, swimming pools, football fields, if gassing was the plan? Why didn’t the evil German Nazis simply round the Jews up in their ghettos and let the firebombs of the Allies kill them?

If Babi Yar were true, then it would seem to me that the cheapest and most expeditious way to get rid of them would be to simply line them up or corral them and shoot them, just as the Communist Jews in the Soviet Union did to all those 60,000,000 Christians that the Jews never talk about.

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5 thoughts on “How Sound Is Holocaust Eyewitness Testimony?

  1. so who are the NOTSEES ?

    you know…the ones with eyes to see and ears to hear…?

    who is going to judge whom…?

    ….. how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked triumph?

    How long shall they utter and speak hard things, and all the workers of iniquity boast themselves?

    They break in pieces thy people, and afflict thine heritage.

    They slay the widow and the stranger, and murder the fatherless.

    Yet they say, The Almighty shall not see, neither shall the God of Jacob regard it.

    Understand, ye brutish among the people: and ye fools, when will ye be wise?

    He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?

    He that chastiseth the heathen, shall not he correct? he that teacheth man knowledge, shall not he know?

    I liked Jim Sadlers’ version….when he was a Vocalist and rhythm guitar player for Sierra Light

    …and I really HATE Holocaust Deniers….!


  2. BuelahMan;

    You ask:

    “So what is the truth about Babi Yar? Were Jews actually machine-gunned? How many? Tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands?”

    Tens of millions, likely. Elie is a fastidious man and couldn’t say, with certainty, that the number was tens of millions so he chose to leave the number up in the air so as not to mislead any judeochristians.

    You say:

    ” It just so happens that aerial photographs taken by the Allies shows NONE. No mass burial graves. No signs of anything.”

    It is very likely that the great geysers of blood coupled with the Earth’s shuddering and revulsion at the tens of millions of jews murdered in that spot somehow served to hide the signs of death. True Christian blood wouldn’t cause the geyser effect or localized earthquakes. That has to be the reason mass graves were visable in Kiev and many other areas of Russia. Christian (or Muslim blood for that matter) really is no different from the blood of a domesticated animal whereas jew blood has very specialized properties that set it apart as ‘Chosen’.

    Happily we have another Pope who recognizes all I write as Fact, but that’s beside the point for now.

    I hope this serves to help clarify the issue for everyone.


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