“This Government Does Not Torture” ~ George Waterboard Bush

George "Waterboard" Bush and Crew

George “Waterboard” Bush and Crew

Remember when GWB explained to the world that “this government does not torture“? I bet most of you believed him, right? Just like the Fox News slurping jarhead I had a conversation with not long ago. When I said that it embarrasses me that my country has reverted to what we once prosecuted others for, he asked me what I was talking about. I explained that Iraqi prisoners were tortured. He said I didn’t know what I was talking about. You see, he’s “been there” and there was no torture.

I asked, “What about the waterboarding?”

He laughed and said, “I’ve been waterboarded, have you? That isn’t torture, they did it to us in the Marines.”

Of course, what he went through was hardly torture, even though some ex-marines and Seals say it was. Is it torture if you are doused with water for 10-15 seconds? By your friends and fellow Marines that you know damn well don’t have ill intent for you? When you know it is practice training in case you get caught behind enemy lines?

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Well, I would think that IF it were a scared Muslim dude who is held down by steroid laden monstrosities, cursing you, slapping your nuts with batons, causing sleep deprivation by chaining your hands to the ceiling, not allowing you to rest for up to 40 hours or more at a time, being threatened with death and mock executions, threats of killing your loved ones if you don’t “confess”… that it might be a tad bit different than the comparable love-fest initiated by your fellow jarheads.

But to people like him its the same, because, you know, he’s so bad ass and all.

Even the wikipedia tells us that its not the same:

The difference was in the manner in which the detainees’ breathing was obstructed. At the SERE school and in the DoJ opinion, the subject’s airflow is disrupted by the firm application of a damp cloth over the air passages; the interrogator applies a small amount of water to the cloth in a controlled manner. By contrast, the Agency interrogator … applied large volumes of water to a cloth that covered the detainee’s mouth and nose. One of the psychiatrist / interrogators acknowledged that the Agency’s use of the technique is different from that used in SERE training because it is ‘for real’ and is more poignant and convincing.

It appears that we did, in fact, torture others (according to the Constitution Project). In a recent 577 page report ABU GHRAIB(that you can read HERE), the bipartisan committee of 11 (led by Asa Hutchison, ex-DHS undersecretary/DEA Head, and James Jones) explains that we did (this is a death knell for those who that we never tortured).

Let’s review what was done to these people in our name:

The OLC issued a second memorandum signed by Bybee in August 2002 (hereinafter Bybee Techniques Memo) that concluded 10 specific “enhanced” techniques were not torture, and could be used lawfully by the CIA. The techniques were: “(1) attention grasp, (2) walling, (3) facial hold, (4) facial slap (insult slap), (5) cramped confinement, (6) wall standing, (7) stress positions, (8) sleep deprivation, (9) insects placed in a confinement box, and (10) the waterboard.”

In finding that the 10 techniques were not torture, the Bybee Techniques Memo relied not only on a narrow legal definition of torture, but on factual representations about how the techniques would be implemented that later proved inaccurate. To give one example, the OLC memorandum stated the volume of water used to waterboard a suspect would be carefully controlled, and that while enhanced techniques might be used more than once, “repetition will not be substantial.” In fact, one detainee was waterboarded 83 times, and another detainee 183 times, by interrogators who “continuously applied large volumes of water.”

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So the report shows that we did torture and that it:

“damaged the standing of our nation, reduced our capacity to convey moral censure when necessary and potentially increased the danger to U.S. military personnel taken captive.”

Yeah. No shit. And we killed and maimed many that confessed to stuff they never did in the first place.

The New York Times tells us:

The task force found “no firm or persuasive evidence” that these interrogation methods produced valuable information that could not have been obtained by other means. While “a person subjected to torture might well divulge useful information,” much of the information obtained by force was not reliable, the report says.

pic.phpOne key issue that you ObamaBots need to realize is that your favorite murderer in chief wanted to “look forward, not backward” when he had the chance to hold the Bush criminals responsible. (You two party pukes make me sick.) Nevermind that he didn’t want these torture regimens stopped, because sure as hell, he uses the same schemes.

Hutchison didn’t want to believe it and had to be convinced, but finally had to admit that he now has no doubts about what the US has done:

“This has not been an easy inquiry for me, because I know many of the players.”

Mr Jones chimed in:

“I had not recognized the depths of torture in some cases,”

“We lost our compass.”

You may want to view many of the news reports that have been covered over due to the false flag event in Boston.

Look, some people argue that they were trying to stop further attacks. Of course, these are morons who have yet figured out that none of the people who were tortured attacked us. It boils down to this: every last Bush official, including that cowboy wannabe clown and his controller, Cheney, Rice, Gonzales, Bybee, Yoo and all the rest should be prosecuted. And don’t forget the coverer-up-in-chief, Obama, that now uses that horrific lie to further his agenda. He needs to go, too.

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We killed Japanese that did these things to others. Nothing is too good for the ones who “led us” in doing this to the faked enemies. Its the only way we could ever get respect from the rest of the world.

Just remember, We’re The USA!

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4 thoughts on ““This Government Does Not Torture” ~ George Waterboard Bush

  1. It is horrific, the physical and psychological abuse that is done by our judeochristian capitalist government in our name. And the Americans like the EX marine you mentioned are either shamefully stupid and uneducated buffoons or psychotic crazies who really should be medicated with whatever is at hand.

    The real problem though, is so many refuse to put themselves in another man’s (or child’s or woman’s) shoes. Consider if a foreign country had invaded – say North Korea – since they are a long time boogyman. And they somehow defeat our government and military and their troops patrol the streets and are trigger happy, they determine who’ll be hired for which State job, and routinely stories are passed around of their ruthless and violent nature towards any American unlucky enough to be taken into their custody. And you find yourself in just that unfortunate position. You are bounced down the concrete hallway and shoved into a 4X8 solid concrete cell with lights blazing and loud horrific music and sounds eminating from a hidden speaker. You spend the following 48 or so hours in this cell, all the time assaulted by light and noise. There’s no food, perhaps a little water. Suddenly the door swings open and a few N Korean soldiers are there – they motion you out and slap you on the face and one grabs your ass as you’re led down the hall. You’re led to another room, the door opens and you smell the fear that now haunts the room. You’re brought to a cold steel table and motioned to sit. You don’t understand and from behind you’re hit across the back of the head. A second shot, a punch from the front, lays you out on the table. All your extremities are tied down. You can no longer move. Then your eyes are covered. You can no longer see what is happening. Suddenly your head dips as the table drops 15 or 20 degrees and your feet are a foot or so above your head. Then comes the water. Slowly at first, then building. You can no longer breath. The N Korean interrogator asks a question. You don’t understand Korean. The water continues. You can’t breath. The questions continue.
    You can’t breath.

    No, that’s not torture.

    Judaism is chosen all right. Chosen to represent and dissemenate the evil of this world.

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  2. well everybody nose….. PISS SACKS ARE JEWISH…..

    http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/05-25-04/discussion.cgi.48.html

    originally for Americans the word Government defined was not “JEWISH” asshole terrorists

    http://whitenationalist.org/lindstedt/jf052404.html

    with a morbid fascination for torturing and eating little goy children….

    apparently TALMUDVISION has lobotomised a significant number of the “JEW” worshipping

    BRAINDEADGOY…..

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