B’Man’s Sabbath Watch: Nihilistic Gnostic

 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior Of All Men, and especially of those who believe. Command and teach these things.

~ Paul (1 TIM 4:9)

I have been asked if I am a Christian.

I suppose that technically the answer would be yes. But I ain’t no ordinary Christian and many people, including my own mother, have said that my beliefs would take me straight to hell (and lead anyone I share my thoughts with to the fiery pit with me). As a matter of fact, I have faced the ire of more religious Christians, than anyone else I ever encountered, including the belittling atheists.


Because my message is one that doesn’t fit the brainwashing they have endured.

If I were forced to label myself it would be a Universalist or Deist or maybe even Gnostic.

I shared this with John Friend once after I heard him promoting the Christian Identity movement being the only rational belief “that makes sense”. He has listened to the CI preachers who use words like “Universalism” and turned that word into a “bad” word. And if he would have read the words I shared with him, he may have a slightly different understanding of the word. It means that Jesus is all inclusive in His purpose. Yes, even atheists, jews, and CI people are included. Everyone in. No one out. (Kinda like a Single Payer system of salvation)

That is virtually impossible for literalists (believers or not) to get a grasp of. It brings about anger from the self-professed chosen ones of Christendom and turns the CI message on its head (which, really, the CI message is simply trying to be Jew-Lites just like the Christian Zionists’ goal). It may be worse with CI, because they claim to be the ones written about in the OT (the Israelites), who are the most vicious, mass-murdering sect in all of the Bible. Good on you, dumbasses.

I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone– for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men–the testimony given in its proper time. And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle–I am telling the truth, I am not lying–and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

~Paul (1 TIM 2:1)

Atheists are pretty bad. People like ZCF are violently anti-Christian (anti any religion). There are several people in the truth movement that are atheistic and belittle people of faith and belief. Many times, these people, who would agree with me on many other issues, call me names without having an inkling of an idea what my beliefs are. They are so turned off by their brainwashing (understandably so) that they could never embrace what they know of Christianity. Just so you know, I feel exactly the same way. And that is why I never argue with them during their rants.

You see, whether they know it or not, they were brainwashed with the same literalist view that has been foisted upon mankind by Jews and their minions and understandably, they recoil. The sad thing is that they think all Christians believe that way. They think everyone is a Calvinist (God decides who goes to hell) or maybe an Arminian (we have free choice to go to hell). It is inconceivable to me that a loving God could consign his very own to endless torture. Atheists feel this and recoil, but Christians fall all over themselves trying to reconcile these untenable positions with all sorts of mumbo jumbo, which just drives many people away.

Even the most dense person will struggle with such a dichotomy. Smart people have an impossible time.

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.  For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

~JN 3:16,17

Think about how many times you have seen or heard verse 16 above, but how seldom you hear the very next verse. And when you do, they go out of their way to minimize what is meant by the word “world”.

I have spent hundreds of hours studying the Bible and original languages. Years of my life spent trying to understand this illogical fantasy. I found that the Bible has truly been manipulated. Word meanings purposefully changed to fit a theology. Several very different words are translated into the same one, but upon further investigation, these words have their own significant meanings. All to bolster a particular belief to keep mankind in fear and controlled. For instance:

 Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine. Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.”

~JN 12:30-32

That word translated into “draw” (as if it is a wooing or a persuasive attempt to bring people close) is helkuo. If you do a search on that word meaning, you find that EVERY OTHER time it is used (6 or 7 more times) it is a forced action (like drawing a sword from a scabbard, dragging a net full of fish up onto the dry ground, or dragging Paul from a prison cell, etc). Do I need to point out that one does not woo a sword out of the scabbard or gently draw a prisoner from his cell.

See here.

There are plenty more examples such as this, where word meanings were changed for a theology.

But that wasn’t until three to four hundred years after Jesus died (if He actually was a man).

I shared some of this before. This new understanding has made it possible that I can put down my “god sledge hammer” and not worry about foolishly trying to “draw” people into being “saved” or “accepting Christ”. You see, to me, this is all a spiritual thing. Even if I were to share my testimony with you, there is nothing that I can say or do that will make any spiritual connection for you. That spiritual connection comes from elsewhere:

Now about spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be ignorant. You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

~Paul (1CO 12:1-3)

As a matter of fact, Paul even said that preaching was foolishness (altho he had no real choice in the matter). But Paul never beat anyone over the head with hell and damnation. As a matter of fact, he said that hell lost… that it is done away with… that Jesus took the keys and was victorious (no matter what someone’s definition of what hell is, it is not successful).

But then again, Paul knew that hell had nothing whatsoever to do with unending punishment and torture. The Gnostics knew this and more. They felt that it is all spiritual. That “knowing Jesus” is really knowing yourself. That is what the “personal relationship” thing should be all about.

As for the literalists, I have said many times that the first thing a Christian should do is throw out the entire Old testament. And my goodness how that tears the literalistic Christian a new one. Why would I even try to understand this maniac God illuminated in that portion, especially when that particular God is the God of the Jew. That God is insane. He commands his followers to kill by the thousands; to rape little girls and take them for concubine; to totally wipe out entire cities, peoples and their animals.

That God has mercies that last forever, yet He will burn your ass for all eternity. His love endures forever, except when He gets pissed and assigns you to the “lake of fire” (just a word study on that phrase would give a whole new meaning to people).

I think that it is evident that the God of the OT and the God of the NT are totally different characters with opposite characteristics.

Every Christian has to try to explain the OT God and then, also be able to express how “God is Love” (NT) and how one must juggle the old God with the new God Jesus spoke of. Its a stinking mess that is impossible. And it drives people away.

We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

~1JN 4:13

Both Christians and atheists seem to believe that Jesus was a Jew, so the die hard literalist worships the Jew and their “chosen” status. But Jesus wasn’t from Judea (which is what the original word meant at the time). It had nothing to do with our brainwashed preconceived notion of what a “jew” is. It was simply pointing to a geographic area. He was from Galilee.

Being a “Jew” is a relatively recent concept (in the way Jews have claimed ownership of that word). When people in the Bible spoke of this, they weren’t separating a religious group from another, they were simply talking about where these people came from. So, a Khazar is no jew for they aren’t from Judea. The vast majority of the “jews” have nothing, whatsoever, to do with a lineage of people from Judea. Its all a bait and switch. And dumb old Gentiles believe them and worship them over this lie.

From a literalist point of view, one has to take the time to reread the Bible understanding what words really meant (or read the very few versions that did not make the word meaning changes). There aren’t many because the publishing houses are owned by Jews and or brainwashed literalists, so good luck with that.

What most people think of is all the crap they hear from Hagee and other fools who lie and deceive. They can never see a Jesus that is victorious in his purpose (being “Savior of the World” and the “Savior of all men”). As a matter of fact, their Jesus (and God) are quite ineffectual and weak. They are violently retributive after having set up mankind to fail. They are unable to save all even though it is evident that this was the purpose to begin with.

Well, no matter what the straight poop is about this, I am confident in saying that the standard belief paradigm is wrong and at least, my thinking puts the God of Jesus in a different light. One of hope. One of victory. One that DOES actually get what he so desires.

You know, like a God.


h/t zen @ just wondering

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9 thoughts on “B’Man’s Sabbath Watch: Nihilistic Gnostic

  1. hey B-man!

    I enjoy your blog ever since I stumbled upon ya after the Boston marathon hoax…

    I used to believe the Bible was written and edited by men. then something miraculous happened when I was 38 years old …I got saved. A true conversion to belief in Jesus Christ. It was supernatural. Understand, I was a truther before this event, grew up on Bill Cooper and Hour of the Time, but it wasn’t until the Holy Spirit revealed to me the TRUTH of the authorized King James Bible and the the mountains of deception in this perishing world, that the pieces began to fit together. When one reads, Kings I and II and Chronicles I and II you can get a handle on the Jews rebellion to God, which continues to this very day and will continue to the Day of the Lord. In the New testament, Jesus even tells us about the Khazars/Ashkenazis that control the world, synagogue of satan, Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9. In Acts 7:43 the writer describes the Star of remphan (star of david/tabernacle of moloch). Romans 9:33 lets the reader know the Jews are not able to realize the truth as a whole. Acts 19 is a great read as well.

    Prior to my conversion I despised “churchianity” and this fueled my unbelief. My problem was not with Jesus Christ it was with an apostate, hypocritical church body that is heavily deceived and brainwashed. 501c3’s, rock bands posing as Christians, big screens in the church to view the latest “Christian” movies, church superbowl parties, watered down versions of the Word of God, ecumenicalism, on and on it goes…The church is divided and infiltrated by wolves in sheeps clothing. Jesus said this would happen and he warned to not be deceived by men ( Mat 24:4 ).

    Most ” Christians ” are not truly converted…
    John 3:5-8.

    remember too Jesus said to be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. I don’t personally know many Christians that fit this description.

    I am not preachin at ya mane, just want you to understand that not all Christians are idiot, Zionist, consumers….Don’t let the world of men deceive you in any way. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life….No one comes to the Father but by …HIM…..

    Matthew 7:21-23 for scriptural proof not all Christians are welcome.


    • David,

      I appreciate you sharing. However, there is no way I could ever agree with you about the KJV being TRUTH> If that were so, why have there been so many revisions? It is the most revised version of all the Bibles, as a matter of fact.Why was there a “She Bible”?

      Since the “inerrant” KJV is one of the world’s most revised books, this surely points to many errors contained over the years (otherwise, why would they revise what God wrote). Seriously, the original 1611 “Authorized” version was full of errors. Besides being the “She” Bible (in Ruth 3:15), it was quickly changed to the “He” Bible. Matt 26:36 called Jesus, “Judas” (and was quickly changed.

      The Tentmaker site has a list (not wholly encompassing) of errors of the KJV:

      (1) 1611, Great “He” Bible, (Ruth 3:15, “and he went into the city.”)
      (2) 1611, Great “She” Bible, (Ruth 3:15), “and she went into the city.”)
      (3) 1611, “Judas” Bible, (Mat. 26:36, “Judas” for “Jesus.”)
      (4) 1631, “Wicked” Bible, (Ex. 20:14, omits the “not.”)
      (5) 1638, “Forgotten Sins” Bible, (Luke 7:47).
      (6) 1641, “More Sea” Bible, (Rev. 21:1, “There was more sea.”)
      (7) 1653, “Unrighteous” or Field’s Bible, (1 Cor. 6:9, “unrighteous shall inherit.”)
      (8) 1702, “Printers” Bible, (Ps. 119:161, “Printers have persecuted.”)
      (9) 1711, “Profit” Bible, (Isa. 57:12, “shall profit” instead of “shall not profit.”)
      (10) 1716, “Sin On” Bible, (John 5:14, “sin on more” for “sin no more.”)
      (11) 1717, “Vinegar” Bible, (Luke 20, “parable of the Vinegar” instead of “Vineyard.”
      (12) 1746, “Sting” Bible, (Mark 7:37, “sting of his tongue” not “string.”
      (13) 1792, “Denial” Bible, (Lk. 22:34, Philip denies Jesus instead of Peter.
      (14) 1801, “Murderers” Bible, (Jude 1:16, “murderers” used instead of “murmurers.”
      (15) 1802, “Discharge” Bible, (1 Tim. 5:21, “I discharge” instead of “I charge.”
      (16) 1804, “Lions” Bible, (1 Kings 7:19, “out of thy lions” instead of “loins.”
      (17) 1805, “To-Remain” Bible, (Gal. 4:29, “to remain” inserted instead of a comma.
      (18) 1806, “Standing Fishes” Bible, (Ezek. 47:10, “the fishes shall stand” instead of “fishers.”
      (19) 1807, “Ears to ear” Bible, (Mat. 13:43, “ears to ear” instead of “to hear.”
      (20) 1810, “Wife-Hater” Bible, (Lk. 14:26, “hate not . . . and his own wife” instead of “life.”)
      (21) 1823, “Camels” Bible, (Gen. 24:61, “Rebekah arose, and her camels” instead of “damsels.”
      (22) 1829, “Large Family” Bible, (Isa. 66:9, “not cease to bring to birth” instead of “not cause to bring forth.”
      (23) undated, “Fool” Bible, Psalm 14:1, “The fool hath said in his heart there is a God” instead of “there is no God.”

      This inerrant Bible was changed in 1613, 1616, 1617, 1618, 1629, 1630, 1633, 1634, 1637, 1638, 1640, 1642, 1653, 1659, 1675, 1679, 1833, 1896, 1904. yet it always had the same name. To add to this, there are bunches of versions which are almost the same, yet have different names.

      When someone speaks of “Churchianity”, I always think of the woman at the well that Jesus spoke to when she asked Him if one should worship at the Synagogue or the mountain. His answer tells me all I need to know about Churches.


  2. The CI ‘movement’ is a strange one. What’s the purpose of a belief that one is a descendent of the tribes for which there is no archeological evidence, only words? If they existed at all they were minor. The whole OT is a mish mash of earlier writings that some jews attributed as their own. If I want the inspirational words of Jesus, I’ll stick with the Jefferson Bible where he eliminated all the unnecessary filler and the entire OT.

    Speaking of translations: A couple of months ago someone who goes to a Baptist church asked me to look up where the new translation used in their study books came from. In about 5 minutes I found it was from a partnership of the Southern Baptist Convention and a Nashville publisher and it hit me that it was all for money. Everyone has a KJV and that slows down sales so a new version creates a new market. The SBC incorporates it in their ‘teachings’ so folks will buy the new version and they and the publisher make some profit, without adding anything to the narrative.

    Yep, I’ve heard it all my life. Don’t ask too many questions cause that’s the road to hell. They forget the old adage of “Seek and ye shall find.” I think that works quite well.


  3. Hey, BMan!

    Did you know Jesus was not declared divine until the first Council of Nicea in 325 A.D.

    Even the Roman Catholic Church couldn’t make up their mind as to whether he was merely mortal or divine. Obviously, they chose the latter.

    But here’s a really good question that I wish a scholar could answer.

    If Jesus Christ really walked the earth why didn’t the Romans or the Greeks or someone write about him? This guy is performing miracles everywhere in Palestine, but no one makes an attempt to write anything down at the time. That makes no sense to me.

    So, my belief is that the bible is a collection of fables and fairy tales some quite brutal and not for reading to small children.

    Religion, especially Christianity I believe was orchestrated, created to control the masses on a very large scale mainly by making them feel guilty for being human because of their human flaws, especially of the flesh. And it’s worked quite well for over 2000 years.

    The Age of Pisces will end in a few hundred years and then we’ll be in the Age of Aquarius. Wonder what mass control technique they’ll have by that time?


    • Hey there!

      I think the video goes into a bit of how orthodoxy took over and by way of Constantine’s conversion and forcing others to join, then went about establishing the Councils that met (and yes, it wasn’t until 325AD that this determination was done about Jesus.

      The Gnostics do not necessarily believe Jesus was a man.

      The spiritual aspect is what I admire. The rest is hooey.


  4. If someone were to ask me, “What book would you recommend as the single most important book you have ever read?”, it would be this one…
    Caesar’s Messiah by Joseph Atwill
    You can now buy the 2nd edition. The 1st edition is available as a free downloadable torrent. Also see the Atwill interviews posted on Youtube.

    Back were I come from, family, friends and neighbors shun folks like me… folks sans JESUS! They do it to coerce the errant ones back in the fold, which is not possible for me, for I was never really belonged to the fold. And, they do it to keep wayward members from infecting others with ideas that make WAY TOO MUCH FUCKING SENSE. I’ll take the shunning. To thyne self be true. I am incapable of faking belief in Christianity.


  5. One day B’Man you will understand who God really is. When that time comes I would not say I told you so. It is a fact that the HEBREW Messiah was never know to the world as Jesus the Christ of the Christian religion that lie is from the Roman Catholic Church.

    His Father is not a God! Most deceived people are fools just as the HEBREW MESSIAH said they were in Luke 24:25. The great apostle told these fools who God was in 2 Cor.4:4 yet they won’t believe it.

    Here is a hint the TRUE HEBREW MESSIAH MUST HAVE A HEBREW and it sur as hell ain’t Jesus the Christ of the deceived Christian religion.


    Now have yourself a great day.

    On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM, B’Man’s Revolt


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